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John H. 10-08-2009 01:37 AM

HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Can you install one without any clearance issues with the firewall?

2tons of fun 10-08-2009 03:14 AM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
yup

special-K 10-08-2009 05:36 AM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Yeah,but she sure is tight,huh?No clearance problems,just very tucked in back there.

TonyJohnson 10-08-2009 10:50 AM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Issues? Yes, it's tighter than hell. Had to build a special tool to get to one of my hold downs. Was it worth it? Hell yeah...

jaros44sr 10-08-2009 01:02 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
I'm thinking BFH:lol:...can you say 6 gallons of sh!t, in a 5 gallon bucket

chalet2506 10-09-2009 04:05 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
I put summit part # 850001R in my 72 Jimmy, no clearance issues.

Sacramento70 10-10-2009 09:20 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
im in the process of installing HEI in my blazer as well, when i finish ill take some pics and show what it looks like and how long it took.

Long Roof 10-10-2009 10:26 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Mine has one and I didn't think it was to tight. Surely seen worse.

John H. 10-11-2009 10:47 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Thanks everyone for the responses. I just ordered new wiring harnesses for the HEi and for an in ternal voltage regulator alternator. I will start a build thread soon.

RckyMntnKng 10-12-2009 12:55 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Sorry not meaning to hi-jack....

On the topic of HEI conversion, what do you need to do with the plug gap if anything?

jaros44sr 10-12-2009 12:58 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
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Originally Posted by RckyMntnKng (Post 3564652)
Sorry not meaning to hi-jack....

On the topic of HEI conversion, what do you need to do with the plug gap if anything?

open it up to .045

My fingers just slide behind the spark plug wires boots locking ring...finger measures 3/4 to 1 inch, if you take off the locking ring you might gain 1/4 to 1/2 inch, but Accel doesn't recommend it
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RckyMntnKng 10-12-2009 01:06 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Thank you.

Considering you would just buy all new plugs wires and HEI and do them together....

Is there a difference in just getting new stock plugs at .035 and opening them to .045, or find stock set maybe for some other year with the same thread and depth and the gap already at .045?

Id love someone to post the AC/Delco part number to look for. Im currently adding a 65000k HEI and 10mm wires...plugs are last item.

Is there any tricks to the install for all 3? Never done a points conversion before. I already changed out the ALT for a Internally regulated.

Thanks:gmc2:

jaros44sr 10-12-2009 01:20 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Mine were ordered as '74 corvette wires w/ramshorn manifolds from Accel...stock size wires are 7mm, but 8mm just go into the factory wire holders.

I may be reworking the lenght of the wires, just haven't got aroundtoit

plugs would depend on how your engine is built and runs...hotter or colder spark, but basically stock

truckster 10-12-2009 11:45 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
If my memory serves me, the stock plug for the 350 with HEI is a Delco R44TS.

Cap'n Hook 12-12-2009 11:26 AM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
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Originally Posted by truckster (Post 3565886)
If my memory serves me, the stock plug for the 350 with HEI is a Delco R44TS.

My Jimmy's Goodwrench 350 has Delco CR43TS. What's the difference if any? And yes it has HEI.

bouncytruck 12-12-2009 02:48 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
I had one in my 69. It was tight but cleared the firewall by about 1/8 inch.

Firebirdjones 12-12-2009 04:28 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
The AC plug R44TS is simply the small 5/8 plug with a taper seat and extended tip.
T=taper seat
S=extended tip

GM started using these plugs in both big block and small block chevrolets in 1971 and work in pretty much anything up through the late 80's with a cast iron head that doesn't require more reach.
You can go as cold as 43's which is what I run in a couple of cars, but that heat range is getting harder to find. Seems the 44's are also getting scarce. You can go as high as 46's if you wish.
Most parts stores want to sell you the 45's it seems.

For stock or nearly stock engines and close to sea level, I'd shoot for the 44's and go from there.

As far as the HEI's, they are a cheap alternative to electronic ignition. Very dependable. The downfall is the size for me. I never liked the bulkyness and the amount of crap you have to remove for a simple cap and rotor change.
I'm an MSD person myself, used them for 20 years without a hickup. They can be made to look stock as well, if you are into the stealthy stuff. ;)
But a good setup is 5 times the price unfortunately.

swyfor5 12-12-2009 10:30 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Very interesting topic, as I am looking at upgrading on next rebuild. Currently running the point dist, and time for a change! What wiring changes have to be made?

cparman 12-12-2009 10:37 PM

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My Blazer had an HEI in it when I bought it. I have a bunch of clearance??? Her is a poor pic of it. I think I can get my hand around it no problem. Oh yea, i used a set of Taylor wires that I cut to length. I ran the front two on both sides under the motor mount. ( like a Corvette with HEI ) I have done this a bunch of times with Rams horn manifolds. Looks good, and makes teh wire set look very neat.

pound41 12-12-2009 10:42 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
mallory unilite is about same size as stock and uses the OE style wires

Firebirdjones 12-13-2009 12:23 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swyfor5 (Post 3671754)
Very interesting topic, as I am looking at upgrading on next rebuild. Currently running the point dist, and time for a change! What wiring changes have to be made?

Well, what I do when converting an old car to electronic is pull the main bulk head from the firewall.

GM used a resistance wire that ran from this bulkhead to the positive side of the coil. I have a stockpile of those factory connections used in that bulkhead.
I simply remove that resistance wire from the bulkhead, and use another factory connector with a 10-12 gauge wire. And simply re-route that through the harness up to the positive side of the coil.

Sometimes, depending on the car, I'll keep that resistance wire in the harness as well (connected to the bulkhead but hidden inside the harness) just in case I decide to switch back to points for any reason.
Keeps everything neat and factory appearing.

You don't have to worry about the other side of the bulkhead that runs to the fuse box and ignition switch. GM used all standard wire on that side. The resistance wire was only installed from the bulkhead to the coil.

Keep in mind this is GM only. Other brands such as Chrysler used a simple resistor mounted on the firewall.

Firebirdjones 12-13-2009 12:28 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cparman (Post 3671763)
My Blazer had an HEI in it when I bought it. I have a bunch of clearance??? Her is a poor pic of it. I think I can get my hand around it no problem. Oh yea, i used a set of Taylor wires that I cut to length. I ran the front two on both sides under the motor mount. ( like a Corvette with HEI ) I have done this a bunch of times with Rams horn manifolds. Looks good, and makes teh wire set look very neat.

Not only does that wire routing keep things neat,,,,that's actually the way the wires were supposed to go when using those ramhorn manifolds. It was done on some trucks as well as passenger cars.
There are factory wire supports that mount to the block near the motor mount as well as on the rear of the block next to the transmission bellhousing that holds all the wires together.

Last time I did this setup there were several restoration vendors that still sold these factory wire looms.

jaros44sr 12-13-2009 01:22 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cparman (Post 3671763)
My Blazer had an HEI in it when I bought it. I have a bunch of clearance??? Her is a poor pic of it. I think I can get my hand around it no problem. Oh yea, i used a set of Taylor wires that I cut to length. I ran the front two on both sides under the motor mount. ( like a Corvette with HEI ) I have done this a bunch of times with Rams horn manifolds. Looks good, and makes teh wire set look very neat.

Man Parman, that engine bay and motor look like crap!

J/K, nice attention to detail and workmanship, but I don't know why I have such little clearance

jaros44sr 12-13-2009 01:26 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebirdjones (Post 3672462)
Well, what I do when converting an old car to electronic is pull the main bulk head from the firewall.

GM used a resistance wire that ran from this bulkhead to the positive side of the coil. I have a stockpile of those factory connections used in that bulkhead.
I simply remove that resistance wire from the bulkhead, and use another factory connector with a 10-12 gauge wire.


Do you have any pics of removing the wires from the bulkhead connector, always wanted to know how to do that...special tools?

bouncytruck 12-13-2009 01:28 PM

Re: HEI dist in 4x4 72 Jimmy/Blazer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cparman (Post 3671763)
My Blazer had an HEI in it when I bought it. I have a bunch of clearance??? Her is a poor pic of it. I think I can get my hand around it no problem.

Is your Blazer 2wd and the engine mounted in the forward 2wd position?


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