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Getter-Done 01-18-2010 12:52 AM

Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
I'm New to the Forum
I have Owned Several 1974 to 1985 Trucks + 1 (1976 Blazer)in my 20 years or so(driving) // 4/ Wheeling/:chevy:
Glad to see So many Chevy Trucks Fixed-Up on this Forum.

I would like Idea's on Disc Brake conversion for 1978 14 Bolt FF Axle.

I have brackets from http//www.ruffstuffspecialties.com from E-Bay
I have 1978 Edorado/Cadillac Calipers (from Pull-A-Part) for Core & Also have Levers & springs I will need for E-Brake Set-Up

Now my Question is:Does any body have Pictures of this swap or Info???????

#1-Brake hose Set-Up---AN Fitting or Regular Stuff
#2-E-Brake Set-Up---Try to Hook up to Foot E-Brake or CUSTOM Lever

Thanks in Advance
Getter-Done

Slick17 01-18-2010 11:18 AM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
I think this has been done on here before. I would like to see pics as well.

Getter-Done 01-18-2010 11:01 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
Hey Slick17

I plan to buy a Camera Also. Hee Hee Hee

I like your Truck

Getter-Done

ghettoluxury 01-19-2010 02:47 AM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
When I did my swap I used the hoses for the front calipers and re-ran my brake lines so that they went through the frame like the front does.

Pull the axle shaft out
Pull the brake drumb off
Remove the Hub (this requires a special socket)
Take the brake line loose from the wheel cylinder
Remove the brake backing plate
Press the studs out of the Hub with a hammer and punch
Put the new rotor on the back side of the Hub and press the studs back through
Mount your new bracket from Ruff Stuff so that the bleader is facing Upward (the bend should be towards the wheel)
Put the hub back on
Put the caliper and pads on
Re-install the axle shaft
Repeat on other side

As for running the E-brake lines I don't know because I used front Calipers from a Dana 44

fun in dirt 01-19-2010 03:20 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
I saw a good idea the other day that I'm gonna do for an e-brake: Just run a portion of the rear brake line into the cab (I'm going to have a center console, so mine will come up into it) and put a valve on it. That way when you stop, before taking foot off the brake, close that valve & it'll hold the back brakes.

BIGphillip79 01-19-2010 06:57 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
the line lock idea for a park brake is good, but not as an Emergency brake. If you lose your master cylinder you got neither. If I'm not mistaken, for inspection the E-brake must be mechanical.

cobinder 01-19-2010 09:11 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
You should swap out your master cylinder for a 4 disc model. Some peeps don't and get away with it. But it you really want the full benefit of the 4 disc's, swap the MC

Getter-Done 01-19-2010 11:24 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
Thanks Getto Luxury
You gave me several Idea's
I probably need to stick with Rubber lines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghettoluxury (Post 3742343)
When I did my swap I used the hoses for the front calipers and re-ran my brake lines so that they went through the frame like the front does.

Pull the axle shaft out
Pull the brake drumb off
Remove the Hub (this requires a special socket)
Take the brake line loose from the wheel cylinder
Remove the brake backing plate
Press the studs out of the Hub with a hammer and punch
Put the new rotor on the back side of the Hub and press the studs back through
Mount your new bracket from Ruff Stuff so that the bleader is facing Upward (the bend should be towards the wheel)
Put the hub back on
Put the caliper and pads on
Re-install the axle shaft
Repeat on other side

As for running the E-brake lines I don't know because I used front Calipers from a Dana 44


Getter-Done 01-19-2010 11:30 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
I was Thinking more of Cable E-Brake. But that is Definately an Option.
Thanks for the Idea.
Quote:

Originally Posted by fun in dirt (Post 3743037)
I saw a good idea the other day that I'm gonna do for an e-brake: Just run a portion of the rear brake line into the cab (I'm going to have a center console, so mine will come up into it) and put a valve on it. That way when you stop, before taking foot off the brake, close that valve & it'll hold the back brakes.


Getter-Done 01-19-2010 11:41 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
That's what I Want a Cable System Either foot or lever Operated.

Thanks Big Phillip
That backs up my thinking on I need E-Brake
Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGphillip79 (Post 3743402)
the line lock idea for a park brake is good, but not as an Emergency brake. If you lose your master cylinder you got neither. If I'm not mistaken, for inspection the E-brake must be mechanical.


Getter-Done 01-19-2010 11:45 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
Have you got a Part # for Master Cylinder????

Thanks in Advance

Getter-Done

Big Port Jimmy 6 01-20-2010 08:25 AM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fun in dirt (Post 3743037)
I saw a good idea the other day that I'm gonna do for an e-brake: Just run a portion of the rear brake line into the cab (I'm going to have a center console, so mine will come up into it) and put a valve on it. That way when you stop, before taking foot off the brake, close that valve & it'll hold the back brakes.


Google Mico brake lock. I had several on different tow trucks. Not an emergency brake, but will hold your truck as anchor to winch from/to. Jay

ghettoluxury 01-20-2010 08:58 AM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Getter-Done (Post 3744172)
Thanks Getto Luxury
You gave me several Idea's
I probably need to stick with Rubber lines.

No prob, this it what we are here for.

doug70 01-20-2010 11:37 AM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
Check this out.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...b_disc_brakes/

Btw, you can use 78 caddy eldorado calipers for cable parking brake.

Doug

Slick17 01-20-2010 01:01 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
I've read about the caddy calipers and alot of people that have used and ran them say they are junk. They have said by the time that you spend the money on finding them gathering all the parts needed that you could buy a better set up.

I'm thinking about doing what Ghettoluxury said and for a E-Brake use a transfer case disk brake. Now granted if your axle brakes I won't have a E-Brake but if that happens I won't be driving it and I can use a brick lol.

Thanks Getter-Done.

Getter-Done 01-20-2010 09:17 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Port Jimmy 6 (Post 3744782)
Google Mico brake lock. I had several on different tow trucks. Not an emergency brake, but will hold your truck as anchor to winch from/to. Jay

Thanks Big Port Jimmy

Fun in the Dirt also mentioned
this I found one on E-Bay I think I will go with it.
Because I do some Winching from time to time.

Getter-Done 01-20-2010 10:14 PM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
[QUOTE=Slick17;3745160]I've read about the caddy calipers and alot of people that have used and ran them say they are junk. They have said by the time that you spend the money on finding them gathering all the parts needed that you could buy a better set up.

I'm thinking about doing what Ghettoluxury said and for a E-Brake use a transfer case disk brake. Now granted if your axle brakes I won't have a E-Brake but if that happens I won't be driving it and I can use a brick lol.

Thanks Slick 17
I will read up on that caliper problem /I seen something about Lincoln Calipers On the Thread?.I don't have much money in it yet just $18.00 at pull a part and $50 Bucks on Brackets. I seen that Transfer case Brake,that's Awesome.
Thanks again,
Getter-Done

cobinder 01-21-2010 01:16 AM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Getter-Done (Post 3744268)
Have you got a Part # for Master Cylinder????

Thanks in Advance

Getter-Done

MC off a mid 90's p30 (chassis cab van) is the one recommended to me and it works great.
Napa #UP 390278

fun in dirt 01-21-2010 11:45 AM

Re: Disc Brakes on 14-Bolt Full-Floater
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Port Jimmy 6 (Post 3744782)
Google Mico brake lock. I had several on different tow trucks. Not an emergency brake, but will hold your truck as anchor to winch from/to. Jay

Yeah that's exactly what I had in mind, just didn't know who made such or how to go about searching. I really like the lever lock style ...THANKS!


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