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Electrical Short Help!
I have a short that I cannot seem to chase down. What I have done:
* Disconnected (-) battery cable and installed multimeter between cable and battery post. This is showing a 16 volt current with everything off. * Pulled fuses and unfused connections at fuse box one by one. Still have the 16 volt draw. What else can I do to try and isolate this? The weird thing is that it only seems to drain the battery when it is raining. This is a problem since I live in western Washington and that is what it does here this time of year. I have not been able to test this observation to see if I do still have the draw when everything is dry. Any ideas????? |
perhaps it has something to do with the voltage regulator being stuck (if you have the OE charging system setup)??? I don't know.
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breech:
I'm having a fun time with the same type of problem. Have found several burnt or over heated wires. About ready to buy new wiring. Gone thru the same things you have so far, no results. Was told that some after market radios being connected wrong with the memory wire can cause problems. Redid my radio just in case, no good. Would appreciate it if you find anything to let me know, and I will do the same. :bowtie: :bowtie: |
all your doing with the multimeter is measuring the voltage in the battery volts don't draw amps draw . if it happens mostly during rainy conditions chack first the primary wire going to the starter for cracks etc also the wires that go to the rearend they're located along the left frame rail after that i'd go to the regulator and altenator
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I can understand the possibility of the starter wires. I haven't got there yet.
But why the wires going to the rearend. Something to do with the lighting wires? :bowtie: |
No external regulator anymore.
If everything is off there shouldn't be any measurable current, right?? |
You will be better off using a 12V test light and connecting it between the neg bat post and the neg cable instead of using the voltmeter unless you have an amp setting on the meter. If you have a draw it will light the light, the stronger the draw the brighter the light will get. Pull the fuses again and also try disconnecting the alt and or reg while monitoring the test light.
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Breeh,
I chased a ghost short for a couple of weeks before I found the problem. Sounds like your's might be the same. Does your windshield or cowl leak into the cab? If it does, or even if it doesn't, check your dimmer switch. Just take out the two screws and pull the plug. If its dirty and rusty around the connections, I'll bet that's your problem. Costs less than $4 to replace. Hope this is it. Chris |
right current is AMPS not volts
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I had the same problem with the dimmer switch in my 69 when it was on the road. But it didn't really drain the battery. Could be because it started on fire while I was driving though. Had to go cut a pigtail off another truck to put a new switch on. I bet it is your problem. They are easy to forget about down there.
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I'm not going to debate the terminology because I am definitely not an electrical guy. So pick whatever term is appropriate volt or amps. Let's assume that using a light between the cable and the terminal and seeing if it lights up implies that there is some kind of excitation of the electrons within that wire which means that there is a closed circuit, right? Now if I substitute a meter which measures the existence of electricity (volts, amps, whatever) I am doing much the same thing as that light bulb. My understanding is that if the vehicle is turned off that there should not be any live circuits. This implies that a light will not light nor will my meter measure anything. If this is not correct, please someone tell me.
My cab floor becomes soaked when it rains (not because of the windshield but because the radio antenna hole and some bad cab seals). So, I am going to go check my dimmer switch. Thanks for suggesting that! That make sense. |
Just an example, you could have a memory mode in your am/fm radio that holds your stations and clock when everything else is turned off, this will show a 12 V draw on your meter but it only draws very little current (amps). The one wire alt you installed may show 12 V constantly but very little actual current draw, provided it's a healthy alt.
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Thanks Gordo for helping an electrical knucklehead through this. I think that my multimeter has an amperage setting. If not, I will see if I can rig up a light.
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How did you convert your alternator? An internaly regulated alternater that is not wired correctly will work and put a draw on the battery. It ussally won't pull it down to where it won't crank over night, but will show up if you let it sit for a day or two
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Tom, the alternator is a one wire job that was built professionally. It has been in the truck for 4 months without any problems (until now).
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