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capriceutah 05-31-2010 10:38 AM

84 C10 with I6 -Rod knock?
 
I just picked this truck up from an 85 year old guy that had 5 cars and his wife can't drive. He had a reciept for a new motor and trans. First thing that was noticable is rocker noise. I adjusted the rockers by pulling the valve cover and starting,then turned until the ticking started and then turned it back until it stopped- went a 1/4 turn and then 1/8 turn. The motor doesn't smoke at all.

Can timing cause this sound??

Thanks in Advance,
Chris

Here is a movie of what I'm hearing


It did get quieter and then I seaformed the motor and it got even quieter. I changed the oil and it was black but nothing out of the ordinary.

CLASSIC87' 05-31-2010 11:19 AM

Re: 84 C10 with I6 -Rod knock?
 
take a wood/metal rod and put it on different places of the engine and listen in the end of it... normally you can al least find out where the noise is coming from.

capriceutah 05-31-2010 12:43 PM

Re: 84 C10 with I6 -Rod knock?
 
The fuel pump has a lot of racket when I touched it with the piece of wood - can that cause the noise also I heard it through the exhaust too

f.monroe 05-31-2010 09:57 PM

Re: 84 C10 with I6 -Rod knock?
 
I would look at the flexplate/flywheel bolts . I have seen them come loose after an engine trans install . If it is an auto , also check the torque converter bolts.
Frank

85Bowtie 05-31-2010 11:58 PM

Re: 84 C10 with I6 -Rod knock?
 
That doesn't sound like a rod knock. A rod knocking has a deep sound to it, kind of like stomping your foot on the ground. That sounds like something either in your valvetrain or possibly piston slap. I can't tell from an internet video, piston slap isn't usually THAT noisy but the video might over exaggerate it. It also usually goes away once the motor warms up and the pistons expand and create a tighter fit in the cylinder.

Desert1957 06-01-2010 10:07 AM

Re: 84 C10 with I6 -Rod knock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f.monroe (Post 4007085)
I would look at the flexplate/flywheel bolts . I have seen them come loose after an engine trans install . If it is an auto , also check the torque converter bolts.
Frank

Yes loose bolts , also GM flex plates can crack between the large holes...

Desert

capriceutah 06-01-2010 11:56 AM

Re: 84 C10 with I6 -Rod knock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 85Bowtie (Post 4007361)
That doesn't sound like a rod knock. A rod knocking has a deep sound to it, kind of like stomping your foot on the ground. That sounds like something either in your valvetrain or possibly piston slap. I can't tell from an internet video, piston slap isn't usually THAT noisy but the video might over exaggerate it. It also usually goes away once the motor warms up and the pistons expand and create a tighter fit in the cylinder.

It is a constant sound- No change when it is warmed up.

it is a 3 speed auto with a newer trans with 15 K on it

I did notice that the cat converter has a quarter size hole in it and so does the muffler. I'm thinking of replacing the exhaust along with a new fuel pump. I will pull the flywheel cover and check the bolts tonight if I have time.

capriceutah 06-02-2010 10:12 PM

Re: 84 C10 with I6 -Rod knock?
 
Bump.

Checking the receipt for the motor-flywheel is new
Verified bolts are tight on the torq converter and no cracks in the flywheel.

capriceutah 08-10-2010 12:43 AM

Re: 84 C10 with I6 -Rod knock?
 
Update

New exhaust and the truck passes emissions with no problems at all. Still ticking but not as bad and it starts with two pumps of the gas.

Fuel pump is new-that helped it run better. I'm driving it everyday, the shop that did emissions said they thought it could be the lifter

Any suggestions?

Davidmichael 08-10-2010 09:20 AM

Re: 84 C10 with I6 -Rod knock?
 
It's hard from a video to know exactly what it is, but it definitely sounds like something in valve train. Agreed that it does not sound like a piston, but you never know. I would try more top end work and see if you can narrow it down some.


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