Originally Posted by 3r!c84 (Post 4388078)

ugly imo

Originally Posted by 496 BB (Post 4388153)

LED technology is NOWHERE close to being proficient for LED headlights. Led other lights yes (if made properly which most are not) but headlights no. First off it says they are designed for 12.8v. Does your truck run exactly at 12.8v? Mine doesnt as most vehicles dont while running. If these have a voltage regulator in them then thats fine but it seems weird to put a regulator in there for exactly 12.8v. It seems an even 12 volts would be easier so i would think no regulator. Even though it says 600v spike that is not a constant 600v. Its a spike is all it protects. So essentially these will be slightly over powered and not last too long at all as with most Chinese made LED crap. Another thing is if they actually do have a voltage regulator is it the type that will follow current down if it drops below the regulated power? If not and your alternator is failing these will go completely dark after it gets below the 12.8v so your driving in the dark.

Personally I dont see these lasting long and Im sure they wont be anywhere up to as bright as you think they would be. There is no way these will compare to a halogen or an HID headlight. NO WAY POSSIBLE. They will not shine the light correctly or even come close to producing the angles of pattern of how they should be.

That DOT approved line there is also BS. I will promise you it is NOT DOT approved. What about this also.....This item is subject to U.S. export control laws. Export of such items may require prior authorization from the U.S. Government, including the U.S. Commerce Department's Bureau of Industry & Security or the State Department's Directorate of Defense Trade Controls. Unauthorized export, reexport, or diversion contrary to U.S. law is prohibited.? That tells me they come from China or somewhere overseas and they are gonna suck. Period.

Save your money and get HIDs and aim them properly. LEDs have a looooong way to go before the technology is there for headlights. It will come but not anytime soon.

Chris

Originally Posted by 496 BB (Post 4388632)

I respect that BUT I still think as far as AFFORDABLE LED head lights we are out a ways. I for sure think it will come but until I see ALOT more testing on it Im not going to buy those over an HID set. Did you see the beam pattern these produced on that Harley site? Not the beam I like to see. I am aware of the Audi headlights. Ive seen it in crotch rockets also....think Micheal Jordan actually has some but these are not cheap lights by any means. These are where HIDs were 3-5 years ago. There but costly and need refined. Im sure the Army ones were probably built by Osram and were not cheap. If these are Osram (I couldnt tell) I would not hesitate to say they are great lights. They are a leader in the lighting industry.

As for the DOT I was meaning about the legality of the LED headlights itself. I fixed my post referring to the "export" portion.....was in a hurry and thought it was referring to exporting TO the USA not FROM USA. Sorry for that. Im sure they are approved to be installed in your vehicle but I would like to actually see the report on these. Not trying to be a dick by any means I just want to see how good they really are as Id hate to see someone piss away their money on some junk. I also cant find anything about light output...nothing. I would also like to see the light output graphs.

But hey if they are good then Im all about them....everyone knows I LOVE leds! I would like to dissect a set to see how well they are made first before I tout them.

Originally Posted by draggin86 (Post 4388798)

I will disagree LED technology is here! the only problem is its still pretty expensive and it has not totally made it to the automotive world. Just look how many cars on the road come with regular ol' signal and running lights 99.99% why?? they are still so expensive a normal bulb is under a few bucks.. leds over 30bucks for just one bulb. Now as for the LED lights not being bright enough... that is just completely wrong! again this technology has quite made it to the automotive world.. now the bicycle world it has been around for a while they have 2-3 LED lights putting out then most car head lights running how very low power and completely controllable as in brightness to flashing patterns.. but they are VERY VERY expensive sometimes over 1000 bucks for just a bike light is a little out of control. when it becomes cheaper it will make it to cars. I think those LED lights are sweet but just to spendy for the average consumer!

here is an example of a LED bicycle light

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...ASLIGHT018.jpg

http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1264151604

http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1264151482

Originally Posted by draggin86 (Post 4388798)

I will disagree LED technology is here! the only problem is its still pretty expensive and it has not totally made it to the automotive world. Just look how many cars on the road come with regular ol' signal and running lights 99.99% why?? they are still so expensive a normal bulb is under a few bucks.. leds over 30bucks for just one bulb. Now as for the LED lights not being bright enough... that is just completely wrong! again this technology has quite made it to the automotive world.. now the bicycle world it has been around for a while they have 2-3 LED lights putting out then most car head lights running how very low power and completely controllable as in brightness to flashing patterns.. but they are VERY VERY expensive sometimes over 1000 bucks for just a bike light is a little out of control. when it becomes cheaper it will make it to cars. I think those LED lights are sweet but just to spendy for the average consumer!

here is an example of a LED bicycle light

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...ASLIGHT018.jpg

http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1264151604

http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1264151482

Originally Posted by draggin86 (Post 4394879)

Hahaha i know right that is a little pricey! the 2011 model has a wider beam and integrated on off switch. Im pretty sure that is brighter then HID. In bicycle lights HID is now the old technology do to the fact that is uses so much power when LED became more advanced all the bike light manufactures jumped on LED's. I am temped to build my own LED lights for my square!