The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/index.php)
-   All 4x4 Tech & Off Roading (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/forumdisplay.php?f=30)
-   -   Quick Question about 1 ton 4x4 (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=46244)

Kiss My SS 03-26-2003 11:20 PM

Quick Question about 1 ton 4x4
 
Hey guys,

On a recent junk yard hunt, I found a complete 1 ton, crew cab 4x4. It is a late 70's or early 80's truck. the body is shot, but the axles look good. I am seriously considering buying them. The front axle is a Dana 60. the rear is a 14bff. It is a full time 4x4. My question is, will this axle bolt into my 72 Jimmy? are there any locking hub kits for it, or can a full time axle be changed over to a part time axle? I want to keep my NP 205, so I can disengage the front axle, but I also want to be able to unlock them. any help would be great. I need to hurry though, I am sure that truck wont be there for long.

86k10 03-26-2003 11:38 PM

I'd be sure you can do it if you have all the hardware from the other truck. You might have to do a little driveline work as well but I'm sure it could be done. All you need to buy for the axle is manual hubs to make it part time. :bowtie:

1969 GMC 03-27-2003 01:20 AM

just make sure the good pieces aren't beat to sh!t, they might be, but remember not many people ordered 1 ton 4x4 crewcabs to get groceries.
And you're right, even if its beat to death, it will be gone soon.

Showme-K-20 03-27-2003 08:06 AM

Are you sure it's a Dana 60? I'm not absolutely positive, but I'm gonna stick my neck out here a little and maybe get some feedback from some of the other diehard 4x4 guys. I don't think Chevrolet used the NP203 full time tcase in the 1 tons. I MAY BE MISTAKEN. There might have been some of the early 70's that they did. I always thought it was the NP205 in the K-30's. Chevy did use the full time system in the 3/4 ton K-20's because I have an axle set out of a 78 with that setup. Preparing to be corrected???

Bob

Blazer1970 03-27-2003 09:12 AM

If it is really a K30, it will be a Dana 60. I am also not sure that any K30s were built with NP203s, but it is possible. The axle is basically a bolt in to your Jimmy, except for the driveshaft u-joint. I assume it is a single rear wheel truck?

Kiss My SS 03-27-2003 09:36 AM

Yeah, it is most definately a Dana 60. I would have taken a digi pic but my buddie forgot his camera. (i always like to take pics of interesting junkyard finds to show friends or others who might need the parts) I didn't get under it to look at the T-case, but the t-case shifter and lack of locking hubs leads me to believe that it is a 203. I really want the axles for the low gears and 8 lug pattern. I am wanting a 4 inch lift to run some 35's i have on a 16.5 rim. As far as the abuse the truck has taken, I am sure it has taken lots. the body is completely shot, nothing salvageable besides maybe the hood. I figure that 14bff (which is single wheel) is probably still in great shape (as it is damn hard to bust one of those. the Dana 60 looked good. There are several things on it that could need to be replaced.

SuperStock46872 03-27-2003 12:53 PM

I dunno about the 203 in a K30. But i do know that the dana 60 is a bolt in for 69-87 pick ups. gotta luv chevy! The 14 bolt will require moving of the leaf spring mounts, and shock mounts. I can't remember how much tough it has been a couple years since i did that swap. Also, all dually's had dana 70 rears, single wheels had 10.5 14 bolt.

Blazer1970 03-27-2003 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuperStock46872
I dunno about the 203 in a K30. But i do know that the dana 60 is a bolt in for 69-87 pick ups. gotta luv chevy! The 14 bolt will require moving of the leaf spring mounts, and shock mounts. I can't remember how much tough it has been a couple years since i did that swap. Also, all dually's had dana 70 rears, single wheels had 10.5 14 bolt.
Actually, the spring pads on a '77 - '87 1 ton SRW are the correct width for '67 - '72 trucks. That is the #1 best parts truck for an axle swap into a '67 - '72 4X4. The shock mounts will have to change.

mrein3 03-27-2003 02:02 PM

If you are wondering what they are worth...
A buddy is asking $1000 for a 1-ton Dana 60. Complete with an air locker, new spindles, lockouts, and turned rotors.

NAPCO ken 03-27-2003 05:05 PM

Most definitely it is a 203 transfer case. K30s used 203 behind TH400 auto trannys from 1977-1979. Since it is a 203 and a 1 ton truck, it would be a 1977-1979 only. These are all good pieces, I'd recommend you buying both axles and the tranny and transfer case.

86k10 03-27-2003 08:25 PM

Hey Super stock, are you sure all duallys had Dana 70's. I have an 84 and my brother has an 82 and both are 14 bolt. Just had to throw that in.:flag:

NAPCO ken 03-27-2003 08:34 PM

Usually 14 bolts were used in FLATBED duallys, or cab & chassis duallys. Usually, normal "beded" duallys had the 70 rear.

86k10 03-27-2003 08:50 PM

Ok, but ours were both originally cab and chassis duallys. :bowtie: :flag:

SuperStock46872 03-28-2003 11:07 AM

Well, I guess I was wrong, but I know that the 14 bolt out of a 3/4 ton is different than a 72, or at least my 72 anyways. Thanks for setting me straight.

Hardrock2 03-28-2003 12:05 PM

Hey guys,

Been here before, and I have found that 14-bolt's out of 3/4
tons from '73-up are all the same as far as pad width goes.
They're the wide ones.
The "oddball" 14-bolts are in 1-ton SINGLE/DUAL WHEEL trucks.
the pads are closer together on these units (it's reflected in the
hanger offset), probably due either to GVWR requirement, or
production effiency. By doing it this way, 1-ton trucks, either
single or dual wheel, had the same narrow hangers, and pad
spacing, same housing, etc. Only differences were, which axle ends (spindles) and brake package were spec'd (short spindle=
single wheel, long spindle=dual wheel) Of course, dually PICKUPS
had their own "WIDETRACK" DANA 70HD rearends.

I have at least one of each out back, if anybody needs measurments, or pics.

Mike

jeffspower 03-29-2003 01:52 AM

Re: Quick Question about 1 ton 4x4
 
It will bolt right in. Be sure to get the u-bolt plates as the axle tube dia. is bigger. Your front driveshaft should take the same u-joint. the length should come out very close to the same. Brake hoses will be different. If you do away with those drive flanges I would be interested in them. I have a early '80s single wheel front 60 that is missing one hub/bearing assy. CAN ANYBODY FIND ME ONE PRICED REASONABLE? -Jeff


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:18 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2025 67-72chevytrucks.com