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RoyL 07-09-2011 11:07 PM

65 Suburban Liftgate Door Adjustments
 
It looks like all the pieces are there and the top and bottom half align pretty good, but seems to be alot of slop in there and the rear tailgate/liftgate rattles over bumps. I have to push the button and pull the top half and the bottom moves before the top lets loose to open . . .

May need some adjusting. Any tips on adjustments to tighten her up? [btw, i have tightened that handle up with loose bolts in pic]
Here's a few pics:

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...banDay1152.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...banDay1086.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...nDay1088-1.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...banDay1094.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...banDay1091.jpg

Corts60 07-10-2011 01:45 AM

Re: 65 Suburban Liftgate Door Adjustments
 
My tailgate also rattles and does not fit properly. The bottom is fine, but the top gate is awkward. So far as I can tell, there isn't too much of an adjustment and it seems that maybe all the hinge pins/bushings need to be replaced. I'm not too sure though and I have not really torn into it yet.

Maybe other suburban owners can chime in as well.

RoyL 07-11-2011 09:56 PM

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Anybody tried different weatherstripping for the the rear doors? Something thicker or some rubber pieces in strategic places to stop the rattling?

RoyL 07-12-2011 12:14 AM

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http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...ailgate005.jpg

Got to looking a little closer at how the center latch works. Looks like the upper door catch bar needs to be centered within the "C" slot on the lower door latch. My C catch doesn't go back far enough. That's why she won't let go when I push the button in part way to release the upper door.

The 63 Shop Manual has various adjustments called out on BODY pages 1-25 thru 1-29.

Will report when I try to adjust the center latch.

Roy

gostranger 07-12-2011 06:00 AM

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has anyone tried different weatherstripping if so what i think fatter softer stuff would get rid of the rattle!!

Corts60 07-12-2011 10:23 AM

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New weather stripping would help for sure, but I am more concerned with latch operation and body line match up. My latch actually works very well, but my body lines are all over the road.

A.T. RockDriller 07-12-2011 12:22 PM

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RoyL...
I don't have a Burb...so I'm unable to verify this,.... but is it possible that your catch is backwards....?

Demmit_Hemmit's 65 07-12-2011 11:28 PM

Re: 65 Suburban Liftgate Door Adjustments
 
I had thweproblem with mine....................I have the Chevy shop manual and it explained how to adjust it to work properly..............That manual has helped me a lot when working on my burb....................Hemmit

LT1 Burb 07-13-2011 12:57 AM

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I think Les is on to something, my truck isn't here but the latch looks odd so I can't verify if it is incorrect. I would use no other rubbers for a suburban than Steele rubber products. Every other manufacturer's products are JUNK , I have made the mistake with Brothers so don't follow in my footsteps.

padresag 07-13-2011 02:26 AM

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I just went out and checked mine and it is the other way around from the above pictured one
ron

Corts60 07-13-2011 10:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by padresag (Post 4787743)
I just went out and checked mine and it is the other way around from the above pictured one
ron

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RoyL 07-13-2011 10:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A.T. RockDriller (Post 4786226)
RoyL...
I don't have a Burb...so I'm unable to verify this,.... but is it possible that your catch is backwards....?

yep, you are correct, she's on there backwards . . .

The shop manual pic is hard to see, but clear enough to see what direction it's supposed to be. I reversed the latch, and did some adjusting of the center 3 screws (under the access panel in the bottom door) as discussed in the manual. That helps to get the button release of the top door back to normal, but the slop (movement) of the bottom and top doors is still 1/2 inch or so. Plently of movement there. Gonna work on the side catch adjustments, manual says to using modeling clay to check that. Gotta re-read and see if I can get the side catches to hold the bottom door in place so it doesn't move once latched. Thx to all, will post more when I get back to it.

Roy

RoyL 07-13-2011 10:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LT1 Burb (Post 4787639)
I think Les is on to something, my truck isn't here but the latch looks odd so I can't verify if it is incorrect. I would use no other rubbers for a suburban than Steele rubber products. Every other manufacturer's products are JUNK , I have made the mistake with Brothers so don't follow in my footsteps.

LT1,
Can you send me picture of your rear door weatherstripping? It seems like the doors do not hardly touch the rubber. Will check this weekend on if it really does. Haven't used the water hose on her yet . . .
Thx,
Roy

RoyL 09-26-2012 09:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RoyL (Post 4789043)
LT1,
Can you send me picture of your rear door weatherstripping? It seems like the doors do not hardly touch the rubber. Will check this weekend on if it really does. Haven't used the water hose on her yet . . .
Thx,
Roy

LT1,
Thx for pics via email, my weatherstripping is on the body side not the tailgate or lift gate doors . . .
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0837.jpg



Do you have a piece across the center at the top of the tailgate, on top of the door? Like this?

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0842.jpg

Here's a link to steele's weatherstripping:
https://secure.steelerubber.com/cgi-...in=1966CMC1416

LT1 Burb 09-27-2012 12:02 AM

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I don't think I do because the rubber is attached to the top gate, I will look tomorrow to verify but I am 100% sure I don't.

oem4me 09-27-2012 02:04 AM

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It appears your rubber has been altered away from stock whether accidentally or in a effort to solve rattling issues. The rubber on my burb is all factory and in good shape. Both the gate and lid shut solidly, independent of each other or together, with few rattles. The gate support arms might make a little noise over rough roads, but not too bad around town.
You can't see it all in the photo below, but from the factory the lid has rubber all the way around, and the gate only on three sides. No rubber on top of the gate and no rubber on the body.
Perhaps fresh rubber of the proper shape and in the correct locations could help your situation?

LT1 Burb 09-27-2012 09:09 AM

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That's how my rubber is too and the gate fits great and no rattles at all.

gostranger 09-27-2012 02:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demmit_Hemmit's 65 (Post 4787454)
I had thweproblem with mine....................I have the Chevy shop manual and it explained how to adjust it to work properly..............That manual has helped me a lot when working on my burb....................Hemmit

is there a way to post the adjustment proceedure that would be an awesome help for all the suburban owners!!!!!

RoyL 09-27-2012 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gostranger (Post 5616061)
is there a way to post the adjustment proceedure that would be an awesome help for all the suburban owners!!!!!

They got the pdf files for the Shop Manual "locked" so you can't cut and paste parts you want to reference. The 63 Shop Manual has adjustments called out on the BODY Section, pages 1-25 thru 1-29.

RoyL 09-27-2012 08:40 PM

Re: 65 Suburban Liftgate Door Adjustments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oem4me (Post 5615239)
It appears your rubber has been altered away from stock whether accidentally or in a effort to solve rattling issues. The rubber on my burb is all factory and in good shape. Both the gate and lid shut solidly, independent of each other or together, with few rattles. The gate support arms might make a little noise over rough roads, but not too bad around town.
You can't see it all in the photo below, but from the factory the lid has rubber all the way around, and the gate only on three sides. No rubber on top of the gate and no rubber on the body.
Perhaps fresh rubber of the proper shape and in the correct locations could help your situation?

Thanks gents! A set of the correct rubber is in the works for the Burb. I'll bet that'll cure 95% of my problem!

Roy

Corts60 11-24-2012 12:21 AM

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Any news on the fitment of new rubber? I am in the process of taking apart my tailgate for painting and I will be needing some help with re-aligning it here in the future.

RoyL 11-24-2012 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Corts60 (Post 5719446)
Any news on the fitment of new rubber? I am in the process of taking apart my tailgate for painting and I will be needing some help with re-aligning it here in the future.

not yet, still on the back burner . . . got the new steele rubber, but ain't got to it

RoyL 06-30-2013 05:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Corts60 (Post 5719446)
Any news on the fitment of new rubber? I am in the process of taking apart my tailgate for painting and I will be needing some help with re-aligning it here in the future.

Well, Finally got the chore of the new rubber done! Spent a fair amount of time getting the old black weatherstripping adhesive off. Used Goo-Gone, worked but slow, but it didn't take off the paint,

The new Steele rubber was a little tight even in 80+ degree weather, had to force it down on the "curves" and low spots to make the contours and stick to the adhesive, could've used an extra person to work from opposite ends. Still need a bit of adjusting of the different latches, but doors halves close without any rattling. I'll post some pictures.


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