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How hard to change a Holley Power Valve?
Well, since I had a HUGE backfire through my carb a while back, I'm thinkin I destroyed the power valve in my Holley 4160. How hard would it be to put a new one in? I see summit has them for like $8...thanks!
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Ask this question in the Engine & Drivetrain forum and you'll get a good response. I just bought a new book on rebuilding/modifying/tuning Holleys. I recommend you do the same. It's full of good information. Once I find out the answer to your question, I'll let you know. :)
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Thanks Scott! Yeah, I think I will buy that book...but I'm not much into carb cars...just gotta get this RUNNING. :D
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I was gonna replace mine ....but from what i hear they dont go bad very often....but it might fix your prob. :)
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You have to pull the bowl/s off to replace it.
Before you do, what makes you think you blew it? It is running rich now? |
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Well, jets are easy to replace, so I'd definitely try that first! If I was to replace my Power Valve, I'd go ahead and do a full rebuild while I was at it.
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From what I've seen, the jets are the same. On the top of each bowl there is a nut with a flat-head screw in the middle of it. Basically, you just hold the nut with a wrench while unscrewing the screw. Then the nut will come right off. The threaded portion that the screw went down into is your jet. You screw that out and I think it's that easy. However, I haven't done this on a running carb. I have adjusted my floats via the nut and screw, but haven't actually changed the jets. I did pull the jets out of a carb I have sitting in my garage (same model as mine - 4160).
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A blown powervalve (fuel enrichment) will cause the motor to run rich all the time as it will be dumping gas all the time because there is no vacuum to keep it closed.
Jets are the same secondary vs primary for a Holley. You will still have to remove the bowl to get to the metering block to remove/change the jets. Based on your symptoms I would say your powervalve is ok. Most Holleys now come with "blow out" protection in them now. Not sure about the 4160, but... I would try rejetting it. I would also recommend setting the idle and mixtures with a vacuum guage. Where is your base timing set? How much vacuum advance are you running? I would say start at about 10 degrees mechanical advance and work your way from there. |
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CaptKaos, why do you have to remove the bowls to change the jets? It looks like you could replace them just by unthreading them up from the bowl. Just curious. Haven't gotten to that chapter yet. :D
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Scott, Look at this picture ~>4160 Exploded View
#118 are the primary jets...they're inside the fuel bowl. |
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i'm on my way to get jets now! Hopefully this works!
To change jets, I just pull the bolts out of the fuel bowl and then pull it off and change the jet then put it back on right? Thanks guys! BTW: What should my base timing be at? 8º? |
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The top nut on top of the fuel bowl is the needle/seat, and adjust the float level.
Change the jets: Grab a small spray paint can lid, and pull one of the bottom bowl screws. Gas will drain out. be sure to have a couple rags handy to soak up excess gas. Pull other three bolts, and carefully pull the front bowl off. Then there will be a matering plate as well, that will need to be pulled off. Be careful not to rip any gaskets. Then you will see two jets and the powervalve. The powervalve will have a 6 and a 5 on the other side if it's a 6.5 powervalve. 5 and a 5 is a 5.5 and so on. Why you have it off, you might as well replace it, and jet up at least two sizes. But, I think your problem is the pump squirter is too loose, and i would adjust that first. If you had a blown powervalve, you'd be running really, really fat at idle and puffing black smoke and gas fouling plugs. But to setup the proper way on PV, is to get a vacuum gaige and see what your idle vacuum is. Good luck! |
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