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JNJchev77 03-26-2012 02:13 PM

5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
I am in the process of teardown and rebuild of my 5.3/LM7. This motor came for an 03 Tahoe with about 120K on it. It's going into my 77 swb c10 and I just want some opinions on how far to go....

Basically what I'm asking is, do I really need to take it to a machine shop? I'm basically doing a stock rebuild, except for LS6 cam and springs (and pushrods) and possibly an LS6 intake down the road. The motor has no unusual wear at all, looks very well maintained, etc. etc... I do plan on using all new ARP bolts for main caps and connecting rods, as well as all new bearing, seals, rings, gaskets, oil pump, lifters. This is my first LS rebuild, I've done SBC rebuilds without machining and haven't had any problems... but these motors are new to me.

What are your opinions on this?

Edit - This will not be a daily. Mostly a weekend warrior, trips to Cali and Vegas occasionally.

skoffice 03-26-2012 05:20 PM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
I'm doing the exact same setup right now in my 71 but my 5.3 has 50k. I just put an adjustable timing set and new oil pan gasket on and I'm going to see how she runs as is. If I were tearing it down as far as you are planning though, you might as well take it in. For probably an extra $500 you can pretty much have a guaranteed new engine at that point. Have the block decked and torque-plate honed, and a quick stone grind valve job and surface the heads. With it being completely apart, its the best opportunity to get a perfect fresh runner. Do it once, do it right I always say.

clinebarger 03-26-2012 06:22 PM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
The crank will NEED to be turned .010/.010. GM hasnt used "standard" bearings in a long time. If you look at the bottem of the bearings you will find .0002, .0003, etc. etc. If they ALL say "STD" you can get by without turning the crank, But Ive never seen that be the case.

JNJchev77 03-26-2012 06:27 PM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinebarger (Post 5276562)
The crank will NEED to be turned .010/.010. GM hasnt used "standard" bearings in a long time. If you look at the bottem of the bearings you will find .0002, .0003, etc. etc. If they ALL say "STD" you can get by without turning the crank, But Ive never seen that be the case.

Good to know... I wish the books would inform newbie's of that. Thanks!

clinebarger 03-26-2012 08:42 PM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
If you havent already tore it down, You may want to leave to bottem end alone. A good valve job, Valve springs, Resurface the heads, Fel-Pro gasket set. 120K is not much on a iron block 5.3L.

Be sure to replace to the oil pump to pick-up tube O-ring.

gringoloco 03-26-2012 10:19 PM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
A compression check would be a good measure of need to rebuild. I would say your plan is reasonable IF you take the time to check rod and main clearances.
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JNJchev77 03-27-2012 01:21 PM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinebarger (Post 5276865)
If you havent already tore it down, You may want to leave to bottem end alone. A good valve job, Valve springs, Resurface the heads, Fel-Pro gasket set. 120K is not much on a iron block 5.3L.

Be sure to replace to the oil pump to pick-up tube O-ring.

Thought about going this route, reason being this truck will eventually go to my son (that's the plan anyway, this truck will stay in the family), and I figured we can just pull the motor for rebuild when he's older and ready!

I'm checking with various machine shops on costs and what not to find out if it's really worth it for me to take it down all the way.

Oil pump and o0rings are on the way :)

JNJchev77 03-27-2012 04:29 PM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
Well, I've decided to leave the bottom end alone. Going to change out the following, let me know if I missed anything...

Fel Pro Gasket set
GMPP Oil pan w/ pick up tube and windage tray - done
melling M295 oil pump - done
water pump - done
Trick flow or Comp Cam - Timing chain double roller
LS6 cam - done
LS6 valve springs with retainers - done
new chrom moly push rods
lifters
New "Barbell" plug

Anything you guys recommend...?

79shortbed 03-27-2012 10:37 PM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
I would've said get a different cam than the LS6, but anything would be an upgrade over stock!

JNJchev77 03-28-2012 12:49 AM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 79shortbed (Post 5279227)
I would've said get a different cam than the LS6, but anything would be an upgrade over stock!

Actually, the LS6 stuff I picked up for cheap (brand new), couldn't pass it up lol, probably going with this cam, CheaTR v.3 - http://www.thunderracing.com/shop-by...-Cams_944.html and recommended springs.

code4 03-28-2012 02:50 AM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JNJchev77 (Post 5278501)
Well, I've decided to leave the bottom end alone. Going to change out the following, let me know if I missed anything...

Fel Pro Gasket set
GMPP Oil pan w/ pick up tube and windage tray - done
melling M295 oil pump - done
water pump - done
Trick flow or Comp Cam - Timing chain double roller
LS6 cam - done
LS6 valve springs with retainers - done
new chrom moly push rods
lifters
New "Barbell" plug

Anything you guys recommend...?

Here is my list on a build I am doing right now, 5.3 bored out to 3.898. I have reused some of these gaskets without trouble in the past. This list is not quite complete because I had some of the parts already. Hope this helps.

Cam Position Sensor #12561211
$48.98

Crank Position Sensor #12560228
$48.67


Intake Air Temp Camaro #12160244
$14.23

Intake Air Temp Camaro Grommet #24504388
$9.90

Front Main Seal #12585673
$14.62

Crank Pulley Bolt #12557840 (TTY not reusable)
$3.29

Head Gasket Kit 3.898 bore #12498544
$28.37

Head Bolt Kit (1 head) #12498545 (TTY not reusable)
X 2 $42.02

Water Pump Gasket #12630223
X 2 $6.48

Knock Sensor #12589867
X 2 $85.10

Exhaust Manifold Gasket #12617944
X2 $18.94

Intake Manifold Gasket Truck #89060413
$63.54

Camshaft Lifter Kit #12499225
$113.46

Rear Main Seal #89060436
$13.77

Knock Sensor Grommet #12558177
$11.90

Valve Cover Gasket #12637683
$26.76


EGR Block Off Plate #12558346
$13.51

Oil Pump Oil Ring #12557752
$18.30

Front Cover Gasket #1263390
$15.55

Oil Pan Gasket #12612350
$23.30

Valley Cover Gasket #12637683
$13.38


Oil galley rear plug w/seal 12573460
4.39

ls2 timing chain set from Yank
72.00 shipped

TSP OIL PUMP
179.99

JNJchev77 03-28-2012 12:31 PM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
Code, thanks for the parts list with #'s. Big help!

JNJchev77 03-29-2012 01:02 PM

Re: 5.3 Rebuild... need some opinions
 
Anyone used this gasket kit for 5.3 rebuild?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SLP-260-1880/

It's about $100 cheaper than the Fel-Pro kit...


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