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Keith Seymore 04-29-2012 08:29 PM

GM Service Manual - Driveline Vib Diagnosis
 
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Desert1957 04-30-2012 10:50 AM

Re: GM Service Manual - Driveline Vib Diagnosis
 
Good Info, Thanks Keith

Desert

Allenohana 10-13-2015 12:35 PM

Re: GM Service Manual - Driveline Vib Diagnosis
 
Keith:
Thanks for posting this. It really helped me a lot!! You da man!!:flag:

hatzie 10-14-2015 10:39 AM

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Thanks.
GM Service training manual?

Keith Seymore 10-14-2015 11:36 AM

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You are welcome.

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Originally Posted by hatzie (Post 7340947)
Thanks.
GM Service training manual?

No - I think I grabbed that one out of an S truck regular service manual.

K

hatzie 10-14-2015 01:19 PM

Re: GM Service Manual - Driveline Vib Diagnosis
 
The detailed information on working angle calculation is much better than the 1989 1990 or 1991 RV service manuals.

Ski-me 10-14-2015 04:56 PM

Re: GM Service Manual - Driveline Vib Diagnosis
 
Thanks Keith on this....can't read it at work but will look through it on my home computer tonight, but skimmed through it on my phone. Perfect timing......I am currently trying to figure out a driveline vibration and no one can shed anymore light on it.

New CV Driveshaft with a 2.5" lift and a SYE kit at t-case. I know yours looks to be more stock, slip yoke type, shafts but maybe there's something in there that will help.

Appreciate it!

LostMy65 02-06-2016 09:55 PM

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Thanks
I was just searching for info on this.
Here is one I found:
http://www.hurst-drivelines.com/file...ration-FAQ.pdf

LostMy65 02-06-2016 09:57 PM

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Another:
http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_cata..._problems.html

LostMy65 02-06-2016 10:07 PM

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And another:http://driveshaftvibration.com/drive...brationcauses/

WB72 11-02-2017 07:08 PM

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Great info here thanks Fellas.

Keith Seymore 11-03-2017 08:49 AM

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Keith Seymore 11-03-2017 08:53 AM

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If you can follow this thought process you can fix any vibration problem.

It's all a matter of "divide and conquer".

K

Man With A Gun 12-18-2017 04:22 AM

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Good stuff, Keith. I've got a mild pulsing vibration around 60-70 mph.

I'll see if I can go thru the flowcharts and find the problem.

Richard2112 12-18-2017 11:23 AM

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Yes this is very useful. Thanks

Keith Seymore 12-18-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Man With A Gun (Post 8107865)
Good stuff, Keith. I've got a mild pulsing vibration around 60-70 mph.

I'll see if I can go thru the flowcharts and find the problem.

Thank you;

A "pulsing" vibration is what is known in the biz as a "boom/beat".

It is caused by not one but two vibrations that are close enough in frequency so that they sympathize. The "fade in-fade out" aspect is a result of the amplitudes adding and subtracting as they pass by each other. We used to experience this regularly when I was in band class in high school and actually used this characteristic to help tune our instruments (slower boom/beat frequency means the two vibrations are getting closer together; faster means farther apart).

If you can find and fix one or the other of the two offending components then you fix the boom/beat aspect.

Engine firing frequency (4th order of engine rpm) and driveline u joints (2nd order of driveline) are a couple usual suspects. Hopefully this gives you some ideas.

K

wilkin250r 12-19-2017 10:41 AM

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I definitely have a "boom/beat" problem in a 72 I'm fixing up. The vibration is fairly high frequency, so I'm assuming it's a driveline issue and not a tire issue, but the vibration also fades in and out with a regular rhythm.

Am I correct in assuming the transmission HAS to be part of the problem? Exactly like you said, Keith, amplitudes adding (in phase) or canceling (out of phase). With a driveline imbalance or u-joint, it would be a constant vibration. It wouldn't fade in and out because there is nothing to change. The planetary gears in the transmission are the only thing I can think that would allow two similar vibrations to fade in and out of phase with each other, so one of the vibrations HAS to be in the transmission. Yes?

(Actually, as I type this, I suppose the ring/pinion gears could also allow two vibrations to add/cancel each other)


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