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61_FL_Apache 05-24-2012 04:41 PM

Upper control arm bushings
 
Ok, I got these in the mail today.... now what?

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...0/IMG_1082.jpg

It does not look like anything is pressed in. It just looks like the caps unscrew and screw on the new caps on the shaft.

Anything else I need to know?

Thanks!!

chevy_mike 05-24-2012 05:56 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Just needs to be screwed in.... hahaha you have never taken out old ones have you? That's the hard part. LOL

Basically you got it, unscrew the old one and screw the new ones in. Put some grease on the internal threads. Make sure you keep them centered and don't overtighten them in the arms. You want a little drag but not binding. Not loose either.

61_FL_Apache 05-24-2012 06:48 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Thanks Mike. Im planning on doing this over the weekend.

Captainfab 05-24-2012 11:34 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Yep, you need the socket to fit the bushings, a breaker bar, a good impact, and a good solid mounting place if you plan on doing these off of the truck. I've never changed these on the truck. If your front sheetmetal is in place, that might make it more difficult changing them on the truck

losthope 05-24-2012 11:44 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
here is a post that i asked aboust the same thing and chevy-mike explains a little more on how to do it...make sure you pre lube the insides of the nuts with grease makes it alot easier threading them on....I did mine on my truck not to bad but would be alot eaiser off the truck....heres the thread:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=508095

chevy_mike 05-25-2012 12:12 AM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by losthope (Post 5398896)
here is a post that i asked aboust the same thing and chevy-mike explains a little more on how to do it...make sure you pre lube the insides of the nuts with grease makes it alot easier threading them on....I did mine on my truck not to bad but would be alot eaiser off the truck....heres the thread:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=508095

:lol: I guess that was a decent write up I wrote. :ito:

61_FL_Apache 05-25-2012 06:22 AM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Thanks for all the info. I plan to do this off the truck. After 50+ years of grease and grime, I want to clean this up before putting them back in.

I will post pics during the install.

ksucatz 10-24-2012 11:46 AM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Don't mean to hack your post, but I am having some issues with my upper control arm bushings.
The bushings will bottom out on the cross shaft before fully seating in the control arms. This allows rotation on the arm threads instead of the greased shaft threads.

I measured the distance between the bushings when bottomed out on the shaft and got a strong 9.5"
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P...0/IMAG0792.jpg

I then measured the overall distance on the control arm and got 9.375"
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k...0/IMAG0793.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e...0/IMAG0794.jpg
So do I need to pre-load the arm to allow the bushings to seat, or am I doing something wrong.

I thought the hard part was done busting the old bushings loose!!

chevy_mike 10-24-2012 12:21 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Hummm.... makes me wonder if the arms are pinched in at the ends? I know when I did mine, they bottomed on the ends of the arms and if you continued to tighten, the ends of the arms would start to pull in.

Hopefully someone has an idea.

61_FL_Apache 10-24-2012 04:07 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
No worries on the hacking.. Thats what this is for..

What I found was at first I fully installed one bushing then the other. The second one was very tight and I could not move the arm at all when in the vice. I had the shaft in the vice and tried to lift the arm, no go!!

I removed both bushing and then threaded them in equally. A couple of turns on one side then the other until both were completely seated..

I am no expert, but that worked for me..

When I did the lower shafts, I followed the same process and it worked out fine..

Hope that helps!!

ksucatz 10-25-2012 03:30 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
That is what I did, and there lies the problem. I thread the bushings on equally, but they bottom out on the shafts before seating on the arms. So I have rotation, but it is in the arm to bushing threads, and not the greased bushing to shaft threads. I am thinking I might just have to take off one thread per side of the shaft and clean up the threads to make them seat properly. I will take a pic with it all put back together tonight.

ol_skool_chevy 02-25-2015 07:10 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
I have been looking for the Upper and lower control arm bushing but I cant find any....seems they only stock them for 1973 and up?...
any ideas?

chevy_mike 02-25-2015 07:19 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ol_skool_chevy (Post 7065620)
I have been looking for the Upper and lower control arm bushing but I cant find any....seems they only stock them for 1973 and up?...
any ideas?

You have to buy the whole shaft with bushings. The bushing are not available individually. Since they are a metal on metal design, if they need replacing, you need to replace everything. NAPA has a listing for them. I think the ones I installed where from Moog.

ol_skool_chevy 02-25-2015 11:55 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Oh my god thank you mike I thought i was going crazy trying to find them...

61_FL_Apache 02-26-2015 08:25 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Its better this way.. Then everything is new!!

On my 65, one of the caps was missing all together and the arm was riding on the shaft wearing it more.. I got another set of arms and new shafts with bushings. World of difference.

scottofksu 02-27-2015 10:55 AM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Also, after rebuilding one side with only brute strength (had to call in a 6'3"/250lb friend to help), I discovered an easier way.

1. Take a wire brush and clean the caps and flange down to bare metal.
2. Gather a small copper smelting torch and some penetrating oil.
3. Place the control arm in a vice with one of the caps facing you.
4. Heat the cap with the torch for about 30 seconds.
5. Quickly turn off the torch and set it some place safe.
6. Spray the penetrating oil where the cap screws into the control arm (CAUTION: depending how hot you got the cap, you may have a small fire spring up. Be prepared.)
7. Get a good 1/2-3/4 drive breaker bar and a short length of pipe for more leverage, and pop the caps off.

After having great difficulty with the brute strength method, the above process allowed me to pop the caps loose using only my left arm and a little leverage.

One last tip, replace the lower control arm u-bolts with those from a 73-87. They are considerable larger, so you will have to open up the holes in your crossmember a bit to accommodate the larger bolts.

For my 65' the following sockets were needed:
Upper- 1-3/8
Lower- 1-5/8

Parts Geek had a great price on them when I bought them, but I noted minor quality control issues with the parts I received. Namely, the head of the caps were slightly oversized. A quick visit to the grinder for some mild polishing and the socket went on like a glove.

Good Luck!

chevy_mike 02-27-2015 11:57 AM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
An even easier method is to grab your 1" drive impact gun and spin them off like butter. :D

doobiebro 02-27-2015 12:11 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ol_skool_chevy (Post 7065620)
I have been looking for the Upper and lower control arm bushing but I cant find any....seems they only stock them for 1973 and up?...
any ideas?

olskool, I bought bushings only for my 60 yrs ago from http://truckandcarshop.com/catalogs.htm They work great!

donthekawguy 02-28-2015 12:33 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
I took the arms out and used my impact on them. When I put them in I used a breaker until I got tired of that and hit them with the impact on the truck. A little on each side until they were seated. You might want to compare the old shaft with the new and see if they are the same length.

scottofksu 02-28-2015 01:30 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy_mike (Post 7068103)
An even easier method is to grab your 1" drive impact gun and spin them off like butter. :D

As Sharps66 would say, "I operate a run what you brung" kind of shop. :lol:

dougf 02-28-2015 02:15 PM

Re: Upper control arm bushings
 
What happened to him? He posted a lot here.


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