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Lattimer 06-24-2013 08:07 PM

Mini starters
 
I did some forum searching, but haven't found a specific answer.

What mini starters can fit our trucks with the bellhousing starter mount? I've looked all over the usual websites, but everything I see seems to be block mounted.

I'm having heat soak issues, and from what I have read a mini starter and a heat shield should solve my issue.

Thanks in advance!!

Don Quixote 06-24-2013 08:15 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
Subscribed. I'd like to know, too.

Jayschevy 06-24-2013 08:37 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
I'm not sure what a bellhousing starter mount looks like but I have a 71 and I'm using this starter and love it.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-829100

AusTx68 06-24-2013 08:45 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
I sure hope you find one cheaper than this: Quarter Master 114267B Starter for Bellhousing

Lattimer 06-24-2013 09:09 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayschevy (Post 6140773)
I'm not sure what a bellhousing starter mount looks like but I have a 71 and I'm using this starter and love it.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-829100

That type mounts to the block. Mine has bolts front to back that mount to the bellhousing.

Lattimer 06-24-2013 09:11 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AusTx68 (Post 6140793)
I sure hope you find one cheaper than this: Quarter Master 114267B Starter for Bellhousing

Yeah, thats a little out of my range.

BADPURPLE70CHEVY 06-24-2013 09:41 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
I am using this guys starters on my 406 small block. My brother drag races and uses this starter also with zero problems. No heat soak issues and best part is he has a killer warranty policy. Great price also. Just look in the listing details of this starter and you will see there phone number and you can call and see if they have one for you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBC-BBC-CHEV...0326d9&vxp=mtr

68c10airstream 06-24-2013 10:14 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
hi shawn, The ministarters, especially the nippondenso gear reduction body that adapts to an aluminum plate. No heat soak issues because of this; the way the solenoid is designed is this, oem= hot= high resistance, low amps, may not engage. The nipponsenso starter is the opposite, hot=low resistance, high amps, pulls in harder hot. The nippondenso starter has ball bearings to support armature, and gear reduction for torgue. These nippondenso starters came as oem on imports through the years, now being rebuilt or copied, and with an adapter plate to bolt up to it's intended application. Good luck, brian fuller

Chvy2NV 06-24-2013 10:20 PM

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Lattimer 06-24-2013 11:15 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68c10airstream (Post 6140971)
hi shawn, The ministarters, especially the nippondenso gear reduction body that adapts to an aluminum plate. No heat soak issues because of this; the way the solenoid is designed is this, oem= hot= high resistance, low amps, may not engage. The nipponsenso starter is the opposite, hot=low resistance, high amps, pulls in harder hot. The nippondenso starter has ball bearings to support armature, and gear reduction for torgue. These nippondenso starters came as oem on imports through the years, now being rebuilt or copied, and with an adapter plate to bolt up to it's intended application. Good luck, brian fuller

Thats what I had read.

Now I just need one that will bolt up properly.

Zable49 06-24-2013 11:25 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
I know what starter you need because I required the same one for my old 64, but for some reason I can't find one either.
In the meantime, I would fab up a heatshield and heat blanket attached to the shield to protect your current starter. You might be able to get away from having to buy a new starter for awhile. Give your self some time to find the right one.

Andy4639 06-25-2013 01:30 AM

Re: Mini starters
 
Here is the link to what I found and have been using now for over 3 years with no problems. Plus it a stock itam at the store.;):chevy:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=4151565

Lattimer 06-25-2013 06:54 AM

Re: Mini starters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy4639 (Post 6141273)
Here is the link to what I found and have been using now for over 3 years with no problems. Plus it a stock itam at the store.;):chevy:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=4151565

That mounts to the block.

Dnrice 06-25-2013 07:04 AM

Re: Mini starters
 
I had problems with my truck not starting when hot so I took it to an alternator starter shop. They put a rebuilt mini starter in. I think various types work as long as the gears fit and it is not too big for space. $220 and I have not had a problem since.

rsavage 06-25-2013 07:18 AM

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You have a starter (3 bolts if I remember correctly) that mounts only to the manual trans bell housing and not the block. I have never see a mini starter that would mount to the bell housing. That doesn't mean they don't exist, it is just that I have never seen one. I believe everyone is showing you or describing block mount starters. As a side note, if you have to replace your original starter keep and use your nose. The nose pieces on the rebuilt starters I have been able to get are thicker and you will have clearance issues with the inside of the bell housing - starter won't bolt up as it will be cocked very slightly.

MARKDTN 06-25-2013 09:03 AM

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Why do you want it to mount to the bellhousing and not the block? Just get a stock one from a mid 90s truck or Suburban. Bolt it to the block and be done. Available at any auto parts store. No need to get an expensive aftermarket one.

Shyguy 06-25-2013 10:37 AM

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I got a mini starter at DB Electric for my '74 454 and it works real good, the price was so good I could not pass it up.

It does bolt to the block though. I have a SM-465 transmission.

My son put a starter on one of his trucks that is for a '95 truck and it works good.

burnin oil 06-25-2013 01:27 PM

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Could always cheat and remove the solenoid from the starter. Kits used to be dirt cheap from Summit. Other option is to wrap your exhaust with header tape. My intake manifold is hotter than the headers on my 406! Helps to keep radiant heat off of the oil filter also.

Lattimer 06-25-2013 04:03 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARKDTN (Post 6141491)
Why do you want it to mount to the bellhousing and not the block? Just get a stock one from a mid 90s truck or Suburban. Bolt it to the block and be done. Available at any auto parts store. No need to get an expensive aftermarket one.

My block is not drilled for a starter mount.

Andy4639 06-25-2013 06:30 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lattimer (Post 6141388)
That mounts to the block.

Yes I know. I was showing you the link so you could go and ask and see if they had anything. But whatever.
The starter was less than $150.00 new with a life time warrinty. They may have something that will work I don't know, but it would be worth a try. Are just pull the motor and drill it.
;):chevy:

leddzepp 06-25-2013 06:50 PM

Re: Mini starters
 
Contact Powermaster. Brady is tech support and if they do exist for your application, he will know.
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MARKDTN 06-26-2013 07:23 AM

Re: Mini starters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lattimer (Post 6142056)
My block is not drilled for a starter mount.

I have never heard of a small-block not drilled for a starter. What kind of block is it?

Lattimer 06-26-2013 08:06 AM

Re: Mini starters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARKDTN (Post 6143030)
I have never heard of a small-block not drilled for a starter. What kind of block is it?

its a truck 327. I believe its from 1966.

There are no holes where the starter would mount in the block. I have another 327 Im building for it that has both patterns drilled and tapped in the block.
I was hoping for a starter that would cure my issues and fit both blocks, but now I know why I cant find one.

MARKDTN 06-27-2013 09:03 AM

Re: Mini starters
 
That is a new one on me. But looks to be true.

http://books.google.com/books?id=g46...0holes&f=false

Learn something new every day. I had never heard of that. Looks like you could drill them, but not in the truck.

Lattimer 06-27-2013 09:51 AM

Re: Mini starters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARKDTN (Post 6144833)
That is a new one on me. But looks to be true.

http://books.google.com/books?id=g46...0holes&f=false

Learn something new every day. I had never heard of that. Looks like you could drill them, but not in the truck.

That was my response when I was laying under the truck with a shiny new starter and no place to bolt it in.:lol:

I was hoping to get something that I could use for now and transfer over later on when the new engine is ready. I ordered some heat shielding material that I am going to try on the existing starter. Starter is only a few months old, and it worked fine in cooler weather. Still works fine when the truck is cold, but won't engage after the truck has been running.


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