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JCampbell 07-10-2013 04:23 AM

Dual Oil Pressure Senders
 
'84 1/2 ton, 305 (ccc). I have two oil pressure sending units. One, single-wire unit up top by the distributor, and one two-wire unit down by the oil filter. I'm assuming the single-wire unit is for the gauge, but what is the two-wire unit for?

Jabes1 07-10-2013 05:21 AM

Re: Dual Oil Pressure Senders
 
Its for that mesh shirt.

JCampbell 07-10-2013 05:24 AM

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:lol:

Rich84 07-10-2013 07:58 AM

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That's the oil pressure switch...It's a redundant circut that lets the fuel pump run when it senses oil pressure in case your relay for the fuel pump fails.

manimal 07-10-2013 09:11 AM

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:agree:

geezer#99 07-10-2013 09:25 AM

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Not sure what the 2 wire one is for yet but it's not for a relay for the fuel pump. His 84 doesn't have a tbi or an electric fuel pump.
I suspect the one by the filter is tied into the electric choke. No oil pressure shuts off power to the choke, it closes, kills the motor. I had one on an 80 malibu.

Rich84 07-10-2013 09:48 AM

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I think it's a TBI conversion..

geezer#99 07-10-2013 10:10 AM

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Well that changes everything.
It must be for the flux capacitator!

JCampbell 07-10-2013 11:44 AM

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It is a TBI conversion, but this is the original wiring for the truck, which had a CCC Quad.

Basically, I need to find a place to install the TBI oil pressure switch, and want to know if I can 86 the existing sending unit down by the filter and install the new unit in it's place.

JCampbell 07-10-2013 11:48 AM

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Wonder if these two are related:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=588046

Rich84 07-10-2013 11:55 AM

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On my TPI both the switch and the gauge sending unit are together behind the distributer..There is a special fitting that recieves both..On mine the gauge is the single wire.

hatzie 07-10-2013 10:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 6165825)
Not sure what the 2 wire one is for yet but it's not for a relay for the fuel pump. His 84 doesn't have a tbi or an electric fuel pump.
I suspect the one by the filter is tied into the electric choke. No oil pressure shuts off power to the choke, it closes, kills the motor. I had one on an 80 malibu.

Two wire is for the factory electric Choke up to 86.
On the 87-91 RV chassis it controls the TBI fuel pump.

JCampbell 07-11-2013 12:14 AM

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So I can remove the two-wire sender and use the TBI fuel pump switch that I need, correct?

PAWS 72 07-11-2013 12:50 AM

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I have been wondering also.

My son's 87 oil gauge has been acting up and I took the one off at the dist. housing and installed a aftermarket gauge and it seems like it takes a little longer to start. Should I put the regular oil pressure switch back in or does it hurt to run the aftermarket one.

It is a 87 with tbi.

hatzie 07-12-2013 10:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCampbell (Post 6167211)
So I can remove the two-wire sender and use the TBI fuel pump switch that I need, correct?

Should work. You can probably use the existing pressure switch unless the connector is wrong. It just closes the contacts when the pressure rises above the setpoint.

hatzie 07-12-2013 10:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PAWS 72 (Post 6167279)
I have been wondering also.

My son's 87 oil gauge has been acting up and I took the one off at the dist. housing and installed a aftermarket gauge and it seems like it takes a little longer to start. Should I put the regular oil pressure switch back in or does it hurt to run the aftermarket one.

It is a 87 with tbi.

This is the single wire gauge can? If so your longer startup isn't related.

I believe the TBI fuel pump circuit is setup to prime the lines when the key is first switched on and the oil pressure is zero. I'm not sure whether the ECU controls this or if there's a relay setup.

Rich84 07-12-2013 12:20 PM

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You will only get longer startups if the fuel pump relay is not working..In which case it uses the circuit thru the oil pressure switch.

PAWS 72 07-12-2013 02:14 PM

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The truck has a little cam and since I had to idle it up I'm assuming that may be the cause for the longer starts also.But the relay and pump are working. Correctly or not I dont know.I used the port at the dist. for the aftermarket gauge will that make any difference or do I need to go ahead and install a new switch in that port to weed out that problem?

I want to get the mechanicals right before I decide what and if I use any of it on my 82 3/4 ton.And then again my son may decide to keep and drive it and I get to keep the short bed I bought.

hatzie 07-13-2013 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PAWS 72 (Post 6169583)
The truck has a little cam and since I had to idle it up I'm assuming that may be the cause for the longer starts also.But the relay and pump are working. Correctly or not I dont know.I used the port at the dist. for the aftermarket gauge will that make any difference or do I need to go ahead and install a new switch in that port to weed out that problem?

I want to get the mechanicals right before I decide what and if I use any of it on my 82 3/4 ton.And then again my son may decide to keep and drive it and I get to keep the short bed I bought.

The oil gauge pressure sender is behind the distributor. Runs the gauge only nothing else. If you look at any of the 73-89 wiring diagrams you'll note the sender wire runs direct from sender to the gauge.

The oil pressure switch is down near the oil filter. This tells the TBI fuel pump relay and prolly the TBI ECU that the engine has oil pressure.

Look in my sig for 73-91 wiring diagrams and service manuals.

PAWS 72 07-13-2013 09:48 AM

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Thanks. Hatzie I have already replaced that one also.


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