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Recommend carb for 5.7 350
Hi All,
I am currently looking for a new carb for my truck. I have a q-jet in mine but after taking my truck in for a some timing work and a vacuum leak my mechanic said my carb is bad. He said 2 of the valves are not opening up at all and it would not be wise to rebuild the carb. This is the current carb that I am running (Q-jet 17081206 1171 DDJ) Q-jet Carb He recommend that I look for something with 500-600CFM. Would something like this Holley work: ![]() |
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Get a new mechanic. Unless there is physical damage, the Qjet is a fine carb in capabale hands. Is is the best of both worlds. Small primaries for economy and large secondaries for power. Build the Qjet.
If you must get a new one, I would (and have) dump the carburetor and convert to TPI or TBI fuel injection. If you are dead set on a carb, and don't want a Qjet, get a 600cfm vacuum secondaries Holley. Stay away from Edelbrock IMHO. |
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If you get a new carb whether a holley or Edelbrock you'll need a new intake or an adaptor to put the new carb on yours. One like this. Keep the quad. It's likely the best for your truck. ![]() |
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I had a feeling his suggestion was a bit off.
I honestly did not mind the q-jet and I am pretty sure it has been running like that since I got it. I thought the PO had rebuilt it but guess not. So to fix it would I just need a rebuild kit? Similar to this one: Cliff Ruggles Rebuild Kit |
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I put an Edelbrock remake of the quadrajet and have to say it performed flawlessly for me.
I ran it till I went FI now it is on my 69 1 ton. Does need a little tuning on it now but it's 15 years old. |
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I could have not remembered properly on what he said was not functioning but 2 of the plates are not opening and I have seen this as well when I was working on the distributor.
So would I just need a new intake or adapter to get mine working and need a rebuild kit? |
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THat kit would work.
But!! No offence but doesn't sound like you have any experience with carbs. Cliff will rebuild yours. Check on his web page under 'services'. If you want to tackle it yourself we can certainly provide you with a ton of links that show you how. As always, take some pics of your carb for us. |
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You hit the nail on it, I do not have any experience with carbs at all. I have his rebuild book and think I can tackle it after reading up on how to do this. Pretty much I have learned a lot from owning this truck.
Here are a couple of pics of the carb. I'll get some better ones later on tonight. Attachment 1145151 Attachment 1145152 |
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Well from what I see your carb is a lot cleaner than normal ones. Coulda been rebuilt.
When you take pics pull the air cleaner off. Take a pic from both sides and the front. Don't need close-ups like those. You might only need a couple minor tweeks to fix it. |
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[QUOTE=utee05;6241097]You hit the nail on it, I do not have any experience with carbs at all. I have his rebuild book and think I can tackle it after reading up on how to do this. Pretty much I have learned a lot from owning this truck.
You said, "I have his rebuild book and think I can tackle it after reading up on how to do this." Since you have the book, 1st of all study the 'linkage pictures' and adjust/set yours accordingly/properly--not talking about pedal-to-carb linkages; but linkages like the choke--and other linkages--disallowing secondaries to open until choke is wide open(made that way by design). Study them carefully, as I've seen some parts left off or set to intentionally cause secondaries to not open, for whatever reason like trying for better mpg(??). Sounds like it might not need rebuilding, esp. as it looks so clean that it probably has recently been re-built, just possibly improperly re-assembled. If it performs well exc. for the back 2 barrels not opening, you may very well have a simple, external fix. A parallel, I think, would be "if a tire is leaking air thru the valve core, tire may NOT need removing and resealing!...but just a valve core replaced." Another good thing to do is to get a good-operating, like carb, and compare its linkage-positions to yours. Maybe get a buddy at a parts house to let you bring yours in and just compare it to one of his rebuilt/new ones from his shelf. You'll possibly immediately see a distinct difference[and the problem]; and should you find the culprit, buy your buddy lunch one day--could be $ well spent PLUS increasing your friendship! HTH, & loving those quadrajets--'closest thing to fuel injection in a carburetor'[NOT my constructed statement, but one I kidnapped from another poster with whom I totally agree]! Sam |
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And if you like to 'dare to be different' and are a true follower of 'Mores Law' then you temp fate and tinker with running 2 quadrajets in tandem on a dual quad intake. I did way back when. Ran a pair of carter afb's and switched to quads just to see how it would work. People like the sound of the secondaries opening on one quad. You gotta feel and hear the sound of two. Almost like the sound of a pair of afb's on a hemi!
I ran the front carb as my secondary. Cranked in at 40% opening of my rear primary. Thanks to the apt they were tuneable. And an assortment of secondary hangers. Great fun. One of the best carbs ever built. Definition time: 'More's Law'-- if some is good, more's better! |
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Did those AFB's have bigger secondaries than these new Edelbrocks? Seems I recall a VERY noticeable size increase between the primaries and secondaries--more so than present-day Edelbrocks. But, having blown out so many birthday candles, I'm kinda winded and may suffer from lack of oxygen to the brain:even if so, some of the memories I do recall are still exuberant--and priceless:lol:. BTW: lotsa people working on q'jets have no idea what the APT is or that it even exists. [Yet may be good IF they don't know what to do with it--even if they have an adjustment tool.] sam |
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Most afb's had equal size throttles. You likely remember the secondary air door opening. The ones I built (from a big box of carbs and parts) were 500 cfm. The quads were your normal 725 jobs. Much more forgiving especially with the apt and adjustable secondary air door. WE better not let the apt secret out. LOL!!
One of my best memories is the late night sound of the local rich kid opening up all 8 barrels on his 69 hemi runner as he slipped around the corner and headed home. A pure adrenalin rush. Got to experience it myself from the drivers seat a few years later in a 67 hemi 4 gear gtx and a 70 hemi cuda. Anywho, apoligies to Utee05 for highjackin' hgis thread! Back to your regular programming! |
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Sadly I do not know of anyone who owns a truck with a q-jet. They all seem to have holley's on theirs.
Here are some pics of the carb. Let me know if these help figure out what is going on. Attachment 1145386 Attachment 1145387 Attachment 1145388 Attachment 1145389 Attachment 1145390 |
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Hey what I have is a Holley I've had all the others carter edelbrock demon there's goods and bads to all. It comes down to how your motors built. If stock I would rebuild ur carb if it needs it or get a edelbrock or carter if its got some extras I would go with a Holley, but it really comes down to what u want and like
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Hopefully I'll have the fuel inlet sorted out this weekend when I get home and will see if I have a good, complete carb. Then I need to get all my linkages straightened out. The job was supposed to take a few hours, not a week.... I took pictures but still. I'd love to go aftermarket FI but too many other things needed on the truck to spend the money on that right now..... |
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Nothing obvious stands out from your pics. Too clean not to have been rebuilt. Just no power to your choke.
So what does your truck run like? How well does it start? What's your timing set at? |
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i like holleys......i run a 600 double pump.
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I'm in the "get a new mechanic" camp. The carb on my truck when I bought it was off a 78 Olds or Buick. Like you I explored rebuilding it myself (if you need more books on Quadrajets, just let me know :lol:), send it off to someone, etc.
To make a long story short, bought an Edelbrock Performer intake and the guy threw in a Quadrajet that he claimed he bought as a rebuilt carb, ran for 2000 miles in his Camaro then it sat on the shelf in his shop for five years. I found a guy at a local shop old enough to actually know what a carburator is. He put a kit in the "rebuilt" carb, straightened out the plumbing and linkage now it runs like a champ. I had to give him $150, but as far as I'm concerned it was well worth every penny. |
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