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Mr_Shamrock 02-09-2014 08:27 PM

Another gas gauge thread...
 
I have seen a few, but none doing exactly what mine is. Basically the needle points at full or a little beyond and then when the key is turned on it moves to 3 o'clock (way past full). I looked under the truck since many threads say to check the ground at the tank. There was a purple wire grounded to the inside of the frame just under and to the front of the tank. I'm not sure if that is for the sending unit, but I went ahead and removed it, cleaned it, and reinstalled it with no luck. I also cleaned the one that goes to the filler neck - just because. Any advice before I pull the cluster????

dieseldawg142 02-10-2014 05:20 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
if your gauge is going to 3:00, sender wire is crimped, broke, etc. trace your sender wire from the switching valve to the firewall. usually they get damaged in that area

frog210 02-10-2014 08:25 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Also if its a dual tank check the passenger side wire also might be a brake there

Mr_Shamrock 02-10-2014 08:55 PM

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It only has a single tank. Any idea what color wire it is - I know "get a damn manual". If you know off hand I would appreciate it.

ray_mcavoy 02-10-2014 09:07 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Shamrock (Post 6519334)
Any idea what color wire it is.

What year is your truck?

73 - early 78 use a tan wire for the fuel sender.
late 78 - 87 use a pink wire for the fuel sender.

Mr_Shamrock 02-10-2014 09:16 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ray_mcavoy (Post 6519357)
What year is your truck?

73 - early 78 use a tan wire for the fuel sender.
late 78 - 87 use a pink wire for the fuel sender.

85 - so I am looking for a pink wire - thanks!!!!!!!

motornut 02-11-2014 06:24 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ray_mcavoy (Post 6519357)
What year is your truck?

73 - early 78 use a tan wire for the fuel sender.
late 78 - 87 use a pink wire for the fuel sender.

I wonder if that changed with the fuse box,tube to blades?
(my 78 is tan and tubes)
if the cluster has been changed sometimes the wire needs to move spots(my 78 did)
with sender wire off, goes over full,grounded goes to E

hatzie 02-11-2014 06:50 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Shamrock (Post 6519334)
It only has a single tank. Any idea what color wire it is - I know "get a damn manual". If you know off hand I would appreciate it.

Needle at 3:00 means;
The ground has come off the frame or sender ring...
The sender to gauge wire has been damaged...


Manuals? Look down. :D

Mr_Shamrock 02-11-2014 08:04 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hatzie (Post 6520875)
Needle at 3:00 means;
The ground has come off the frame or sender ring...
The sender to gauge wire has been damaged...


Manuals? Look down. :D

Thanks man!!! Your wiring diagram link confirms I am looking for a pink wire for signal and the purple wire I found is the ground.

Nodnarb76 02-12-2014 12:06 AM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Sorry to hijack your thread but I'm having a similar problem.
Would the same wire be the same color on an 87 454 TBI suburban?

slam59 02-12-2014 03:09 AM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
This sounds like it could be what's wrong with mine. Gotta check mine out now.

slam59 02-12-2014 03:22 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Found a brown sure coming from firewall about 10 inches long and it has a black plastic plug on the end that's not connected to anything. Could that be for the gas tank?

motornut 02-12-2014 04:20 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Yes, look for another " mate" to fit , try the tank frame rail area

dieseldawg142 02-12-2014 04:59 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
the easiest way to check if it's your sending wire, cut the wire as close as you can to the switching valve, then cut the wire at the firewall & tie in a new piece of wire. when i put my truck together a few yrs ago, i heat shrunk the wires, covered them in insulation with zip ties, then bundled them & zip tied convoluted tubing to them, then clamped them to the frame. good for longevity, lousy for finding any breaks, thats why i did mine that way.
just stuffed the new wire in the tubing. last yr i got ambitious & fished out the old wire, sure enough it had got sliced by a clamp:dohh:

slam59 02-13-2014 03:41 AM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slam59 (Post 6522356)
Found a brown sure coming from firewall about 10 inches long and it has a black plastic plug on the end that's not connected to anything. Could that be for the gas tank?

I meant a brown wire. I will post a pic of it later in the day. I sure hope that's all it is that's wrong is it's not connected

slam59 02-13-2014 11:22 AM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Here is the wire I am talking about with the plastic clip type connector thing at the end. So this is defintely the sending unit wire coming from the firewall? It lines up with the instrument cluster. It may not look like its tan in color in the pic but it is. My truck is a 1974 c10. So all sending units have this connector?



http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...C7%3A239ot1lsi

eddeas31 02-13-2014 01:40 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
I got a 74 K10 with a 350 and turbo 400 and my gas gauge moves all over the place, I just try to keep it topped off.

motornut 02-13-2014 01:52 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slam59 (Post 6523692)
Here is the wire I am talking about with the plastic clip type connector thing at the end. So this is defintely the sending unit wire coming from the firewall? It lines up with the instrument cluster. It may not look like its tan in color in the pic but it is. My truck is a 1974 c10. So all sending units have this connector?



http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...C7%3A239ot1lsi

different plug and shorter wire for the 74 then,not what i was looking for,my 78 Jimmy it ran behind the dizzy down the pass frame
with an add on piece to the tank

slam59 02-13-2014 03:26 PM

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I traced the wire from the tank along the frame rail and as it gets up by the passenger side spring it is pinched between there and a bracket. So I had to go up top above engine and look down for it and nothing's there. Previous owner must have done it without realizing it. Guess I gotta cut it then add to it and see what happens

hatzie 02-13-2014 06:58 PM

Re: Another gas gauge thread...
 
The 1974 GM wiring diagrams will show wire color, wire gauge, and which cavity in the Packard 56 bulkhead plug is for the fuel gauge sender wire. The original plug on the frame rail is a molded rubber piece.
I'm not sure what that Packard 56 plug in your picture goes to.


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