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DBear 05-07-2015 06:55 PM

71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Ok....I have been working on this tank for some time. Just started buttoning up the 3/4 ton axle swap and the DAMN thing is lower by a 1 1/4 on the drivers side. I first thought it was the springs so I swapped them out with a set of skyjacker lift springs....and still the same problem. When I set the skyjacker springs on the axle, and the axle was sitting on jack stands, it was level! When I put the tires on and lowered them to the ground, the burb then had the lean of 1 1/4" to the drivers side again.

I have checked the following :

Tire pressure
Body mounts
Spring bushings etc...

I checked the front of the frame and it was level....and pretty sure frame isn't tweaked because I don't remember if ever leaning at all.

this one has me stumped....please help if u can!!!
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argonaut 05-07-2015 08:36 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Two different length shackles??

DBear 05-07-2015 08:55 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Yeah....measured those and they are same size. This is the weirdest thing I have experienced with this rig for sure

argonaut 05-07-2015 09:11 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
It is weird. so with the new springs mounted and the axle mounted, but axle on jack stands, it was level? Are you sure both jack stands were extended the same amount? can you simulate this by putting it back up on jack stands? is one of your tires mistakenly a smaller size!?!?!

Is the rear axle a 14 bolt, eaton or dana 60? Did you relocate the spring perches inward to 40"? Or did you convert to later model wider hangers at 42.5"?

cdowns 05-07-2015 09:25 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
normal chevy lean they all do it to some extant the harder they were used the greater the lean

DBear 05-07-2015 09:30 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by argonaut (Post 7163500)
It is weird. so with the new springs mounted and the axle mounted, but axle on jack stands, it was level? Are you sure both jack stands were extended the same amount? can you simulate this by putting it back up on jack stands? is one of your tires mistakenly a smaller size!?!?!

Is the rear axle a 14 bolt, eaton or dana 60? Did you relocate the spring perches inward to 40.5"? Or did you convert to later model wider hangers at 42.5"?

when I had it up on jack stands....and unfortunately they were even /level, the burb sat level. The 14 bolt came out of a 3/4 ton which the perches line up. The tires measured the same as well

Bladeboy1998 05-07-2015 10:12 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cdowns (Post 7163527)
normal chevy lean they all do it to some extant the harder they were used the greater the lean

This

I forget who it is (has the polar bear suburban) I think it was his build thread he talked about the chevy lean.

argonaut 05-07-2015 10:27 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
With good body mount bushings, springs, spring bushings and shackles, there is no reason a truck should lean. At least not as mush as 1"+. Unless it is actually weighted heavier on one side, or something is on the chassis is bent.

If it sat level on the jack stands then the only remaining factors are the wheels and tires.

The other puzzling thing to me is that there is no factory 3/4 ton truck (or 1 ton for that matter) with a 14 bolt that has the the same spring perch distance as a 71.

71blksuper4x4 05-07-2015 10:30 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by argonaut (Post 7163613)
With good body mount bushings, springs, spring bushings and shackles, there is no reason a truck should lean. At least not as mush as 1"+. Unless it is actually weighted heavier on one side, or something is on the chassis is bent.

If it sat level on the jack stands then the only remaining factors are the wheels and tires.

The other puzzling thing to me is that there is no factory 3/4 ton truck (or 1 ton for that matter) with a 14 bolt that has the the same spring perch distance as a 71.

The cab & chassis 1 tons drw have the same perch distance as the 72 body style.

'63GENIII 05-07-2015 10:40 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
My '63 leans about the same amount but on the passenger side. The only difference is that the front shackle on the passenger side has a little more angle. By a little Im talking within 5 degrees of the drivers side. Its driven me crazy for the last 8 years! In two weeks, Im swapping in a set of 52" springs into the front and at that time, I will make sure that the new rear shackle eyes and front spring hangers are in identical places. I can't tell you how many times Ive measured my frame with a straight edge and plumb bob only to come to the conclusion that the hanger was installed just a little off at the factory. Not sure if this is what you have going on with yours as well but its free to take a tape measure and look.

bilfman 05-07-2015 11:39 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Could be a bent frame , hate to bring that option up. I had the same issue on a prior resto, needed a tweak on a frame machine to fix it.

Mr. D 05-07-2015 11:56 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
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Mr. D 05-07-2015 11:57 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Check the spindles. One may have 1" drop.
Just a thought.
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swamp rat 05-08-2015 01:57 AM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
My thought is binding suspension, did you lower the driver side last with a floor jack? did you torque the U bolts up in the air or on the ground?

argonaut 05-08-2015 02:26 AM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 71blksuper4x4 (Post 7163618)
The cab & chassis 1 tons drw have the same perch distance as the 72 body style.

My 83 1 ton perches measured 40.5". My 73 3/4 ton measured 42.5". My 64, 66 and 70 axles measure 40". This is measured by hanging a plumb bob from each spring perch centerline to a flat level surface and measuring between them. To be fair, I never measured an axle from a cab & chassis truck.

I dont mean to steer this off topic; the reason I bring this up is because if the OP has a 1 ton axle with 40.5" spacing installed on 40" wide hangers then spring bind could be causing some problems, whether they are causing the lean or not.

argonaut 05-08-2015 02:31 AM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Another thought: measure your springs from each end to to center pin. My 52" long tuff country 4" lift rear springs had slightly offset spring pins so I had to be sure to have both oriented the same.

special-K 05-09-2015 07:02 AM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Just throwing this out there since no one has mentioned it... Could the frame be cracked at the steering box? What surface is the truck on when measuring?

The last suggestions by argonaut could make a difference.

Mr. D 05-10-2015 02:07 AM

One thing for sure, this is not your usual problem. Very odd.
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Mr. D 06-05-2015 03:47 PM

Re: 71 Burb with a leaning problem
 
Did you ever find out what the problem was?


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