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tkeduk8r 05-21-2015 12:03 AM

So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
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Havent posted much in the way of builds lately, but figured id post some pics of the engine some of my students and i did as part of the advanced engines class i teach. Its a 250 bored .030, flat top forged TRW L2314 pistons, Tom Lowes HYTORK cam, heavily ported and with lumps and 1.94/1.60 valves all done here at the school. This is destinted for wifeys 68 stepper here in a few weeks. Almost got this thing ready to fire for the kids tomorrow morning as it is our seniors' last day, but still missing a few things and a few wrong parts...ugh... But figured I'd throw some pics up for everybody before we hung more wires and hoses on it.... Also one of my seniors asked to restore the Merc valve and side covers for me...Did an awesome job, makes those bad days not so bad when they wow a person like that...very proud for sure! Here are the pics....

tommys72 05-21-2015 12:14 AM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
Congrats! Looks very nice

swamp rat 05-21-2015 01:10 AM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
Nice! wanna trade? :)

mechanicalman 05-21-2015 01:22 AM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
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Originally Posted by tkeduk8r (Post 7180215)
Its a 250 bored .030, flat top forged TRW L2314 pistons, Tom Lowes HYTORK cam, heavily ported and with lumps and 1.94/1.60 valves all done here at the school. Also one of my seniors asked to restore the Merc valve and side covers for me...Did an awesome job, makes those bad days not so bad when they wow a person like that...very proud for sure! Here are the pics....

Question, heavily ported with lumps? What's a lump? I'm a dummy when it comes to 6 cyl mods.

Is that a stock or high performance exhaust manifold?

Possibly a Clifford intake with a small 4bbl in the future? I does not appear to be an integral head so maybe?

That senior did an awesome job on the covers! :metal:

Shaky 05-21-2015 06:40 AM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
Man - those Merc pieces are nice. How hard are they to find? Do they bolt right on?

68C15 05-21-2015 07:09 AM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
Wow Mike, those covers really make it look good.

A one lunger has got to choke the life right out of that thing. Now, where's that web page showing blowers for inline 6's? Yeah, 5 psi. boost with multi-port injection and CD ignition. That'll do it right. You don't mind eating mac-n-cheese and raman noodles for 6 months do you?

Lokin4AReason 05-21-2015 08:59 AM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
liking the colour combo along w/ the detail(s) to it

Mr Chevorlet 05-21-2015 09:06 AM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
Very nice!

boraxman 05-21-2015 10:19 AM

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Cool/

WarMonger 05-21-2015 10:24 AM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
That motor looks really good. That engine compartment will look clean with that in there.

67ChevyRedneck 05-21-2015 10:46 AM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
No joke, one of my greatest regrets in owning my truck the past 18 years is pulling the butter smooth, nothing wrong with it, 250 for a 350 about 12 years ago. I should have just put a T5 behind it....

Beautiful looking motor. One of the best GM ever produced.

Thank you for teaching kids to do more than play with their phone.

MikeB 05-21-2015 11:11 AM

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Gotta love the simplicity of a pre-smog 250.

Which transmission will be in the 68?

cooperhw 05-21-2015 11:14 AM

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That looks amazing.

That thing will run like stink.

Custom/Ten 05-21-2015 11:35 AM

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Just my style.........I mean just my style if I wasn't incredibly broke lol. That's about to change though, just got my degree! Seriously though, your motor reminds me of mine, just better!Attachment 1405438 been using my old beater as a fun way to help me learn new stuff while I was getting my AST degree. I think this old stuff makes learning a lot of fun. To much working on minivans and sunfires can make you want to switch to cosmotology!

Jonlopes 05-21-2015 12:44 PM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
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Originally Posted by mechanicalman (Post 7180255)
Question, heavily ported with lumps? What's a lump? I'm a dummy when it comes to 6 cyl mods.


That senior did an awesome job on the covers! :metal:

I assume he is talking about a cam shaft with larger lobes?

Custom/Ten 05-21-2015 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonlopes (Post 7180641)
I assume he is talking about a cam shaft with larger lobes?

No it's actually a lump that goes in the head. 250 guys are always talking about installing lumps. Supposed to be a great upgrade. Changes air/fuel flow.

88Ironduke 05-21-2015 01:03 PM

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"Lump Port" is actually a modification of cylinder head. A wedge is installed into the intake passages, kind of looks like the top of an airplane wing, or a lump, hence the name. Because the 250 and 292 (and I assume 230's as well) each cylinder shares the intake port on the head and manifold the air velocity is decreased over all due to the large port in relationship to volume of air each cylinder will take. Only one valve opens at a time so the speed at fuel/air mix is in drawn in is on the slow side. The lump is supposed to increase the air velocity and mixture efficiency with in the head prior to the intake valve. The stove bolt guys have touted the lump port modification has the way to go. Want to try out a lump port on one of my spare cylinder heads.

Paul

RichardJ 05-21-2015 01:08 PM

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tkeduk8r, I have a question about your PCV system. The PCV valve with vacuum line is top center. I can't see where the fresh air intake is for the system.

An internet search for "MerCruiser 250" produces plenty of valve covers and complete engines. Most are on Ebay. I can't see on any of those pictures either, what provision is made for PCV air intake.

Lump ports on the inline head, involves cutting out the head bolt boss and raising the intake port floor. Each of the three intake ports feed two valves. The boss for the head bolt provides restriction and the area inside the port is large and causes the velocity of the air/fuel to slow just before the valves. Removing the boss increases the port volume even more.
Adding a large lump to the port floor with brazing, epoxy or an aluminum insert, reduces the volume and directs the flow toward the valve pocket.

There are a couple of different aluminum inserts, but they all involve removing the boss, installing a short hex head bolt and plugging the old hole on top.


Sorry, ironduke, I didn't know you had posted as I was a little slow. These images should help.

Custom/Ten 05-21-2015 01:22 PM

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Good info from these guys, I also saw some cool vids on YouTube with guys installing lumps!

Jonlopes 05-21-2015 01:32 PM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
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Originally Posted by 88Ironduke (Post 7180655)
"Lump Port" is actually a modification of cylinder head. A wedge is installed into the intake passages, kind of looks like the top of an airplane wing, or a lump, hence the name. Because the 250 and 292 (and I assume 230's as well) each cylinder shares the intake port on the head and manifold the air velocity is decreased over all due to the large port in relationship to volume of air each cylinder will take. Only one valve opens at a time so the speed at fuel/air mix is in drawn in is on the slow side. The lump is supposed to increase the air velocity and mixture efficiency with in the head prior to the intake valve. The stove bolt guys have touted the lump port modification has the way to go. Want to try out a lump port on one of my spare cylinder heads.

Paul

Thanks! You learn something every day, makes a lot of sense.

88Ironduke 05-21-2015 01:41 PM

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"The boss for the head bolt provides restriction and the area inside the port is large and causes the velocity of the air/fuel to slow just before the valves. Removing the boss increases the port volume even more."



Thanks for the correction.

tkeduk8r 05-22-2015 03:32 PM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
Thanks guys... Was at school that night till about 11.... Didn't know the flu was waiting until about 230 am and have been home sick the past two days...gonna be missing graduation tonight too.... Oh well...

Anyway... The lump port mod is due to the fact that a head bolt passes right through the three siamezed (?) Intake ports. Basically you cut and machine the bolt boss out of the head and insert a aluminum "lump" that directs the intake charge more efficiently to the valves.. Very cool and disgustingly common sense....

The exhaust manifold is a stock c60 with a larger 2.5 inch outlet.... Found out the hard way that neither my Clifford intake nor my factory power steering brackets are compatible with it :(.... So we cleaned up the stock intake n carb just to get it running before school gets out....

tkeduk8r 05-22-2015 03:40 PM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
Oh... And yes the merc covers are bolt on... I had to use to use two gaskets to clear the ARP head studs...as far as the pcv system goes there is only one port and it had a hollowed out pcv valve in there when I got the covers... So I don't know how "it should" go....I'll have to figure out how I want to make it work on the truck yet...may have to drill into cover for connection to air cleaner yet well see...

tkeduk8r 05-22-2015 04:04 PM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
And it'll have a 4speed OD MY6 trans out of an 84 c10 behind it with a 3.73 gear turning 31 inch tires...
--Mike

SOON2BLAZE 05-22-2015 10:25 PM

Re: So close but so far away.... ALMOST ready to fire our 250 inline
 
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Originally Posted by tkeduk8r (Post 7182054)
And it'll have a 4speed OD MY6 trans out of an 84 c10 behind it with a 3.73 gear turning 31 inch tires...
--Mike

That a833 ought to keep your RPMs down. Nice engine.


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