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Mator 07-21-2015 11:15 AM

Why is it so hard
 
Why is it so hard to get information about 6 lug rims? Rallies are great and so are steelies but I want shinny. Chrome or polished. I have searched and still can’t find the answer. I know others have asked too with no luck too. I thought I had back spacing figured out and when I started talking to wheel companies they asked about offset which proceeded to blow everything I thought I knew out of the water. I am sure there is a lot of different choices on front, back, back spacing, width, diameter and offset. I am just really frustrated on my search for a tire wheel combo that won’t cost more than I paid for the truck. Can anyone help me out? Looking for a good set up for 20’s with a 6 lug for a 67 step with a 3-6 static drop. I don’t have a retailer close so I have to order them and have them delivered so I get only one shot at this. Thanks for listening.:devil:

michael bustamante 07-21-2015 11:29 AM

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did you do the disk brake conversion yet?

colgad 07-21-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mator (Post 7248919)
Why is it so hard to get information about 6 lug rims? Rallies are great and so are steelies but I want shinny. Chrome or polished. I have searched and still can’t find the answer. I know others have asked too with no luck too. I thought I had back spacing figured out and when I started talking to wheel companies they asked about offset which proceeded to blow everything I thought I knew out of the water. I am sure there is a lot of different choices on front, back, back spacing, width, diameter and offset. I am just really frustrated on my search for a tire wheel combo that won’t cost more than I paid for the truck. Can anyone help me out? Looking for a good set up for 20’s with a 6 lug for a 67 step with a 3-6 static drop. I don’t have a retailer close so I have to order them and have them delivered so I get only one shot at this. Thanks for listening.:devil:

This may help you out some.
https://www.customwheeloffset.com/ti...et-calculators
It took me a while to get the offset thing in my head but this calculator really helped me. I have 20's on my 67 fleet that are 10" wide front and rear. 275x45 tires The rims are both 0 offset making the hub basicly in the center of the rim. I got the rims cheap so I decided to make them work. With this calulator you can see what difference a change in offset does to the distance from the rim to the inside and the out side of the rim. You can also change the width and see what difference it makes. With my setup I had to add a 1.5" steel spacer to the rear and nothing in the front. My rims are closer to the outside of the fender than i would like but there is nothing rubbing so I am happy. I have bags and dropped spindles making the total drop in the front about 3-4 and the back 5. Nothing radical it's just what I like. Hope this calculator helps you to understand the + and - offset and what effect it has on backspace.
Here;s my 67
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...ictureid=20684

Mator 07-21-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by michael bustamante (Post 7248934)
did you do the disk brake conversion yet?

Not yet.

Mator 07-21-2015 12:42 PM

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So below is what the last company sent me and it seems odd. I know during my search's most guys are running 4.5 -5 backspacing

"Ok, so here's where we're at. The Torque Thrust would just be an option in 20" with a chrome finish for your truck. The issue with those though is concerning the offset. The lowest offset they are available in for this fitment is with a positive 19 offset. Your Chevy has basically a very low, or negative offset. Long story short, that positive offset would sit more inward than the stock wheels do, meaning you'd have to run a spacer along with it to get it pushed back outward"

scotts72heavyhalf 07-21-2015 02:29 PM

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Here is a 6 lug option hood for you. JR5's from Hot Rods By Boyd. Come in painted or polished and in any size you need. The guys at HRBB are super helpful.

scotts72heavyhalf 07-21-2015 02:29 PM

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scotts72heavyhalf 07-21-2015 02:31 PM

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67 chevelle 07-21-2015 02:33 PM

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Scott , Im sure many will want a side shot picture,, and wheel and tire specs , I know I wold like them .
Nice looking truck

scotts72heavyhalf 07-21-2015 02:42 PM

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20x8.5 fronts with 4.5 off set and 20x10 rear with 5.5 off set

67ChevyRedneck 07-21-2015 03:52 PM

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The problem that you're running into is that 6 lug wheels just aren't that popular for classics.

They are, however, popular for new trucks as GM has been 6 lug for quite some time, but as your finding out, most 6 lug wheels have a lot of positive offset as they're meant for newer trucks (look at any modern Silverado and see how close the hub is it outside the wheel), so as mentioned by the wheel seller above, you would need a spacer with most 6 lug wheel choices.

Terrible wheel selection for 6 lugs is why most of us go with the corvette or truck style rally wheel... or swap to 5 lug.

colgad 07-21-2015 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mator (Post 7248919)
Why is it so hard to get information about 6 lug rims? Rallies are great and so are steelies but I want shinny. Chrome or polished. I have searched and still can’t find the answer. I know others have asked too with no luck too. I thought I had back spacing figured out and when I started talking to wheel companies they asked about offset which proceeded to blow everything I thought I knew out of the water. I am sure there is a lot of different choices on front, back, back spacing, width, diameter and offset. I am just really frustrated on my search for a tire wheel combo that won’t cost more than I paid for the truck. Can anyone help me out? Looking for a good set up for 20’s with a 6 lug for a 67 step with a 3-6 static drop. I don’t have a retailer close so I have to order them and have them delivered so I get only one shot at this. Thanks for listening.:devil:

Those Boyd's wheels are really nice but they are pricey! 900+ for each wheel throws most of us out of our comfort zone.

Mike C 07-21-2015 06:05 PM

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Another reality for the late model 6 lug wheels is that the hub pilot hole is too small for these early trucks that have the same hub diameter as the 4x4. This is another reason people uses spacers.

While a little more work up front, for me, the switch to 5 lug at the time I did the disc conversion was a no brainer. Made buying wheels relatively easy and increased the choices exponentially.

Mator 07-21-2015 09:30 PM

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Those are nice rims but again I didn't pay that much for the whole truck,even if I am in the process of retouching everything on it. I was trying to keep the feel of the 67 with a touch of new. There has to be something out there that work and looks good. I just have to keep searching I guess.

Mator 07-21-2015 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scotts72heavyhalf (Post 7249125)
20x8.5 fronts with 4.5 off set and 20x10 rear with 5.5 off set

This is the look I am after though. Awesome truck.

leftybass209 07-21-2015 10:01 PM

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Unfortunately, the harsh reality is you can't have your cake and eat it too. The wheels in the sub 1k range are 15 inch oem from 1987 back, and aftermarket eagle alloys and centerlines in all the billet styles of the 90's.

Rallies, slots, wagon wheels, 10 holes, 8 holes, turbines, steelies, and a select few others will fall into the category of not worth more than your truck.

Most of the aftermarket aren't providing custom old school 6 luggers with the needed offset for less than 1k, and even most of those are sketchy quality.

Mike C 07-21-2015 10:10 PM

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I have Summit Legend wheels on my truck. They are 17x9 rear and 17x8 front. $160 and $150 respectively. They make a 6 lug version as well.

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...?tn=-412971965

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...?tn=1441789583

Mator 07-21-2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by leftybass209 (Post 7249630)
Unfortunately, the harsh reality is you can't have your cake and eat it too. The wheels in the sub 1k range are 15 inch oem from 1987 back, and aftermarket eagle alloys and centerlines in all the billet styles of the 90's.

Rallies, slots, wagon wheels, 10 holes, 8 holes, turbines, steelies, and a select few others will fall into the category of not worth more than your truck.

Most of the aftermarket aren't providing custom old school 6 luggers with the needed offset for less than 1k, and even most of those are sketchy quality.

I am okay with a set above 1K but was hoping to get out the door for 2K with tires. But if I Go over that I won't be having hot dogs with my Mac and cheese.

Tillik 07-21-2015 10:13 PM

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Ya I've been running into the same issue trying to find some wheels for my 67 6lug'r. I do really like slotted mags but I want to go Chrome. I've had polished wheels and unless your parking it in a garage 24/7 you will be working them all the time to keep them nice.

I've got an entire 71 front disc brake setup, leaning towards just installing that and converting the rear to 5 lug. It's really the only way I'm going to get something I will be happy with.

Good Luck!

Mike C 07-21-2015 10:15 PM

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Couldn't find the Summit wheel on the site anymore, but cross-reference to this Vision rim. This one is 17x8 6 on 5 1/2" but only $126.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/vsw-141h7883gm19

Mator 07-21-2015 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike C (Post 7249653)
Couldn't find the Summit wheel on the site anymore, but cross-reference to this Vision rim. This one is 17x8 6 on 5 1/2" but only $126.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/vsw-141h7883gm19

I found some vision 142's but they only come in 20. X9.5 with a 5.78 back spacing for 6 lugs I just don't know if they will fit the front and back.

colgad 07-21-2015 10:28 PM

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CPP has a 5 lug rear axle conversion for 67 for under $400 part number 6569RACK
Go with a 5 lug disk conversion and you ahead that way too. 6370SWbk-5 for around 800

Mator 07-21-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by colgad (Post 7249673)
CPP has a 5 lug rear axle conversion for 67 for under $400 part number 6569RACK
Go with a 5 lug disk conversion and you ahead that way too. 6370SWbk-5 for around 800

This is a nice upgrade but was hoping to do this later and keep the 6 lugs. I found a :78 donor truck and can get the front end and rear end for 400 bucks. But again didn't do it.

rharp 07-22-2015 05:11 PM

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I researched this long and hard with my 69. I could never find a wheel I truly liked for a price I was willing to spend. I ended up just swapping a 72 front and rear end out and making it 5 lug. It's just too easy to find nice wheels in the 5 lug pattern.

Mator 07-22-2015 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rharp (Post 7250488)
I researched this long and hard with my 69. I could never find a wheel I truly liked for a price I was willing to spend. I ended up just swapping a 72 front and rear end out and making it 5 lug. It's just too easy to find nice wheels in the 5 lug pattern.

I' not giving up just yet.the I am close but I have looked at the wheels from the site in the second post and might have a winner. If that falls through I will upgrade to 5 on 5. Is that the right bolt pattern?


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