The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/index.php)
-   The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/forumdisplay.php?f=3)
-   -   Painless vs other wiring kits (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=687519)

Henner 11-04-2015 03:33 PM

Painless vs other wiring kits
 
I have done a lot of searching and various things but most of the stuff I read or found was pretty old. To get up to speed for more recent painless wiring kits what has everyone used or recommend to use and, where to purchase? I hate electrial issues so would like to have a plug and play wiring harness. The only thing that has changed on the orginal 68 is it now has a 350 with HEI.
Thanks,

WarMonger 11-04-2015 03:48 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
I have to do a wiring harness in my Blazer, from what I have read, I think the AAW is the cleanest, easiest out there? Just my opinion

Fitz 11-04-2015 03:54 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Henner (Post 7364855)
I have done a lot of searching and various things but most of the stuff I read or found was pretty old. To get up to speed for more recent painless wiring kits what has everyone used or recommend to use and, where to purchase? I hate electrial issues so would like to have a plug and play wiring harness. The only thing that has changed on the orginal 68 is it now has a 350 with HEI.
Thanks,

I used a stock harness from M&H (wiringharness.com) when I built my truck 10 years ago and it went in without any drama in just one day. All of the connectors matched and it was plug and play. Now, 10 years later, my truck isn't stock any longer. Far from it, in fact! It has an HEI distributor, electric fuel pump, electric radiator fans, electric oil cooler fan, electric vacuum pump, killer stereo, electric exhaust cut outs, fog lamps and an boatload of 'patches and add-ons' to that stock harness.

I picked up a painless 28 circuit harness from Summit Racing for the 67-72 C10 and it is most of the way in. The connectors, with the exception of the wiper motor and column harnesses plug right in. I just took the wiper motor and column connectors off the M&H harness and used the extra loose connectors Painless supplied to make the switch. not finished yet but there isn't any mystery with the painless harness. All of the wires are marked and it goes in without any guessing.

Fitz 11-04-2015 03:57 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WarMonger (Post 7364875)
I have to do a wiring harness in my Blazer, from what I have read, I think the AAW is the cleanest, easiest out there? Just my opinion

American Autowire (AAW) was formed by a couple of guys that left M&H to form their own company. There really isn't any difference between the two; they both have a quality plug and play harness.

leftybass209 11-04-2015 04:02 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
There's nothing wrong with painless. They've built a name for themselves and put out quality products. They do however, charge more for the equivalent quality from other companies. I too, use M&H and their harness is exactly the same as AAW.

Henner 11-04-2015 04:12 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
M&H is 6+ months out from having one in stock.

leftybass209 11-04-2015 04:25 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
Contact AAW then..... they may have it.

Henner 11-04-2015 05:02 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
Or would anyone happend to have a old one from their dash that is not butchered and spliced up everywhere? When i got the truck everything under the dask is spliced and cut up everywhere and I am just wanting to go back orginial.

Fitz 11-04-2015 05:10 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Henner (Post 7364902)
M&H is 6+ months out from having one in stock.

M&H builds all of the replacement harness for GM. They do not stock any, just build them to order. That's why the 6 month wait. AAW is a better alternative if you are in a hurry; so is Painless .

Wrenchbender Ret 11-04-2015 05:11 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
Naturally a plug & play is the easiest way to go. I use the universal harness from Speedway for $150 & it has all the circuits I need plus a big hunk of wire left over.

truckdude239 11-04-2015 08:48 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
I used American Auto wire and had no issuses I hate electrical work and I'm an ase certified Auto mechic

trkfrk 11-04-2015 09:25 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
I have no experience with the painless kit so I can't give you an opinion on it. I used the AAW wiring harness and it worked out perfect. I would give it a 10 out of 10. It came with GREAT instructions and plenty of extra wiring.

Orange Crate 11-04-2015 10:00 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
I installed the AAW kit 510089 Classic Update so it has extra fuses and wiring for electric fan, fuel pump ect. I have EFI so it was the right kit for that. I can only speak for the kit I bought and I did buy a ratcheting crimp kit to make my life easier when installing the crimp connectors. I crimped and soldered the connectors for added peace of mind and it turned out really nice, all new wiring from head lights to tail lights. I also bought the A/C kit that was an add on to the standard kit.

S & G Tool Aid 18920 Ratcheting Terminal Crimping Kit- 5

rwolf9653 11-04-2015 10:09 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
I also used the AAW kit. I selected AAW over painless because the reviews were just as good, but the price was less. There were a few points where the kit had too many options that I am not planning on using like electric fuel pump and GPS speedometer, and I was disappointed that it did not include provisions to keep my externally regulated alternator. Overall happy with the kit though.

Willie Makeit 11-04-2015 10:16 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
AAW user here as well and I was very pleased with the quality and the support. Highly recommend versus paying for a bigger name for the same quality.

Money_pit 11-05-2015 08:20 AM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
cant go wrong with AAW.

jeffahart 11-05-2015 12:24 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
AAW makes it an easy project, even fun. Only thing is(no matter which harness you choose), keep your original headlight switch in tact. There is only one company that makes them, and they have quality control issues!

Goob32 11-05-2015 05:58 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
I used a painless in another project and it was rather easy but IMO the price isn't worth it. I'm in the middle of a 67 K10 build and actually found an unbuttered one in a salvage yard (I couldn't believe it myself). The wires aren't dry and will work but we'll see.

Speedway makes one as well but haven't used that one.
v/r
Goob

Henner 11-05-2015 06:46 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
Yeah, I mainly need the dash harness so waiting to see if anyone has a 68 OEM dash harness that hasn't been all butchered up first.

ptc 11-05-2015 08:10 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
Ive installed all the wire kits from many MFRs; even the chinese ebay stuff too, and even made my own as needed.

Painless (as most are stating here) is the most complete and best made, also the highest price. (you get what you pay for and in this case its true) If you dont mind spending the extra dollars to have it perfect then go with them.

AAW or M&H would be right below Painless and provides a very comprehensive system but with a little more finishing work. For a lesser price also.

Speedmaster, quickcar, metra, EZ wire are all pretty much made by the same people with different names. and the quality is ok.... but price is less. some of the connector bodys they use are cheap and break easy.

Rod Run 11-05-2015 09:22 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
I've used Painless on past projects, Street & Performance and other cheaper ones too.

the first two were great. the cheaper ones sucked. I told the people to spend the money but they cheaped out. some of the terminal ends failed in a short period of time and the instructions sucked too.

I have an AAW for my C10 that I haven't installed yet, but at a price of $225.00 for a 21 circuit harness from a reputable company, I couldn't turn it down. Definitely going to take a little more work than Painless, but at least I don't have to see wires that I don't want to use

74baggedbug 11-05-2015 09:44 PM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
I need to order my aaw kit but hate electrical lol

SAMS_72_K10 04-17-2016 11:48 AM

Re: Painless vs other wiring kits
 
Has anyone removed a fuse terminal out of fuse box. When I purchased the truck it was wired with painless wiring. The truck was pre wired for power door/Windows cruise control and now I want to removal the terminal to prevent a short on the fuse box. Is there a special tool needed ?


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:46 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2025 67-72chevytrucks.com