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cheap 12-31-2015 01:23 AM

Longbed to Shortbed
 
I know a lot of people have done this swap, but i was curious if anyone had cut the actual beds for this conversion? How much length and out of where?
Thanks

Gregski 12-31-2015 02:15 AM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
couple suggestions

1. the guys on a show called Car Fix did an episode on shortening the frame and the bottom of the bed, they cut the frame under the bed right behind the cab, did a straight cut and cut out 14 inches, and than again in the rear by the bumper, they cut the bed floor but bought new aftermarket sides, I forgot the lengths

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjRFIWBFHlo

2. Stacey David on his show Gearz also did an episode on this, he did a step cut right under the cab and then also cut some frame off the back, I think he bought a new aftermarket short bed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9zy08qsahk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REUsfEUv5Mo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o2k6QoERio

gasmn1620 12-31-2015 09:34 AM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
Saw the gears episodes. I personally think the step cut is the better way to go, with some reinforcement plates plug welded in. As far as the body work, I would think buying new quarters and then cutting down the interior of the bed would be the best way to go.

cheap 01-19-2016 06:23 PM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
Yes, I know the frame cutting dimensions, I was curious of what to cut out of the actual bed though? Same amount as frame? Best place to cut it? Tips?

tinydb84 01-19-2016 07:21 PM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
I can only help you with the front section as I am only shortening that part. Here are the pictures:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...223_161621.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...223_162840.jpg
I took all 20 out of the front. You will want to take out 14.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...223_163319.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...226_162201.jpg
Decided to stitch weld it:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...226_181427.jpg

Make sure you check the bottom side of where you are going to cut so you don't cut mid support. You also want to plan out your bed mount holes. Make your cuts near the edge as there is more shape to the metal and less likely to move. I stitch welded it because it was still fairly thin metal. I didn't really have any warpage issues. I used a chunk of aluminum behind each weld in order to absorb some of the heat.

I spent a lot of time measuring and marking where I was going to cut. The tape is there just for me to look. I used a punch and marked each "slat" with two punches and then used a scribe to draw out my lines.

tinydb84 01-19-2016 07:29 PM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
I didn't take a pic of the outside when I made the actual marks. I made the outside cut one inch from the edge. That way I could planish yet still close enough to the edge that it would have some strength from the high crown.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...105_215646.jpg
The inside cut was closer to two inches in. The panel has a dip in it and I needed to include that shape in order for it to line up properly. Since the lines are in two different places you have to make a horizontal cut along the top on the inside of the panel.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0617568870.jpg
Made the cut and check to see how far off I was....
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0073922646.jpg
Cleaning up the fit a bit. I spent a bit more time trying to get the fit perfect because I didnt have the luxury of clamping an aluminum block to the backside of it like I did for the front panel.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...109_202421.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...109_210213.jpg

Again I used a punch and a scribe to mark my cuts. The blue stuff is the layout fluid I used to see the marks better. I stripped the paint off prior to playing out my lines.

tinydb84 01-19-2016 07:31 PM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
[QUOTE=tinydb84;7443168]Weld, planish, repeat:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...110_180404.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...110_195137.jpg
Need to do some body work on it still:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...110_194811.jpg
Two things I needed to fix
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...110_194916.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...110_194923.jpg
I ended up cutting this out and welding in a patch.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...110_195143.jpg
And side shot of the bed:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...110_190657.jpg

tinydb84 01-19-2016 07:31 PM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
A bit that didn't line up
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...112_212224.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...112_223027.jpg

tinydb84 01-19-2016 07:32 PM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
I patched a bit of my inner fender and took a lot of pics because someone was asking about patching in the body work section on another board.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...116_154220.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...116_155053.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...116_155308.jpg
ignore the fact that I cut the patch too small....
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...116_161756.jpg
TIG'ing it in
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...116_164905.jpg
Filled and DA'd
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...116_174401.jpg

tinydb84 01-19-2016 07:39 PM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
Its a bit of work and you cant really planish the welds at the top.

The back section has an additional issue of the bottom of the bed being at an angle. You will need to cut it horizontally and try to shorten it or buy a patch from a short bed to match that line.

Gregski 01-19-2016 07:55 PM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheap (Post 7453711)
Yes, I know the frame cutting dimensions, I was curious of what to cut out of the actual bed though? Same amount as frame? Best place to cut it? Tips?

That's what the Car Fix video will tell you, they did just that.

tinydb84 01-19-2016 07:57 PM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7453859)
That's what the Car Fix video will tell you, they did just that.

I saw the episode awhile back but didn't they buy new bedsides instead of cutting them down?

Gregski 01-19-2016 08:23 PM

Re: Longbed to Shortbed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinydb84 (Post 7453863)
I saw the episode awhile back but didn't they buy new bedsides instead of cutting them down?

yes, but they cut the bed floor in front and back I think, that may help


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