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71chevswb 12-31-2015 01:06 PM

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I've got a 68 c10 with a mild built 454 big block. I'm using factory lap belts right now but want more safety. This truck is a grocery getter not a track truck. It will probably never see a drag strip. My question is what kind of seat belts are you guys using in your trucks? I'm trying to avoid adding a roll cage due to more holes in the nice rust free cab. I love the look of 4 point racing harnesses but not sure how to safely mount them into my truck with a bench seat.

Any suggestions or ideas? Post pictures of what you guys are doing! The attached picture is what I'd love to end up with if possible. Thanks!

71Dragtruck 12-31-2015 01:59 PM

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Without a back bar if you attach your shoulder straps to the floor they will become spine crushers, they need to attach to or wrap around a back bar, or at very least attach to some sort of supported structure at shoulder level behind you.

Rannos 12-31-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 71Dragtruck (Post 7429586)
Without a back bar if you attach your shoulder straps to the floor they will become spine crushers, they need to attach to or wrap around a back bar, or at very least attach to some sort of supported structure at shoulder level behind you.

X2 on this. Only reason I haven't put a harness in my 64. Hope to have a cage in it by the end of 2016.

BR3W CITY 12-31-2015 08:14 PM

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Dealing with a similar issue in my truck. Don't really have room for a bar in the cab, trying to figure out a solution.

franken 12-31-2015 09:51 PM

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Isn't there a plug covering the hole for the 3 point belts in all 67-72 trucks?
Won't a 3 point belt setup like in every car for the last 30 years suffice for the grocery getter?

68racer 01-01-2016 01:19 PM

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Create a bolt in structure using the shoulder bolt holes and bolt holes in the floor?

tinydb84 01-01-2016 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 71Dragtruck (Post 7429586)
Without a back bar if you attach your shoulder straps to the floor they will become spine crushers, they need to attach to or wrap around a back bar, or at very least attach to some sort of supported structure at shoulder level behind you.

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Originally Posted by Rannos (Post 7429629)
X2 on this. Only reason I haven't put a harness in my 64. Hope to have a cage in it by the end of 2016.

^^x3

Also remember that the bar(s) need to be padded if they are anywhere near your head. Just imagine what it would be like to be rearended and have your head smack that steal bar.

vin63 01-01-2016 10:31 PM

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If you go with racing driver restraints, make sure they are DOT compliant. The police in many areas are citing people with aftermarket belts that don't have FMVSS tags.

BR3W CITY 01-02-2016 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by vin63 (Post 7431417)
If you go with racing driver restraints, make sure they are DOT compliant. The police in many areas are citing people with aftermarket belts that don't have FMVSS tags.

This is a Cali thing for the most part haha. I agree with you, but there are only a few places in the country where I've met police that know, can tell, and enforce the more enthusiast-oriented laws. Both to their credit, and their detriment.

I'll add that IIRC there are a few harnesses/belts/systems which are race legal, but not DOT legal.
You'll find plenty of cheap "just for looks" belts.
You'll find plenty of race-legal belts which aren't Nhra/SFI or DOT
You'll find a few race legal belts with all the sanctioning
You'll find a handful of good fully endorsed belts, and you'll pay for them.

I'm a big fan of buying used high end safety stuff, especially if your just using it for regular things, or in amateur competition where "current" gear is allowed provided its in working order. You won't pay much, and you know it might actually do something if you relied on it.

vin63 01-05-2016 11:23 PM

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I get updates from customers who drive through or live near urban areas (it's happening more and more), particularly with agencies that regularly conduct sobriety, immigration or safety checkpoints. Here are the driver restraints I did for Brett on this forum (Duramax-powered C10) for his truck that are also DOT compliant.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...psjwz3zk9e.jpg

BR3W CITY 01-06-2016 01:07 AM

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[COLOR="Navy"]conduct sobriety, immigration or safety checkpoints.

You have the legal right to refuse all of these, just be prepared to get f*cked with.

ptc 01-19-2016 04:26 PM

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CHASSISWORKS makes this is a rear mount shoulder harness bar. Bolt on or weld in are avail.

https://www.cachassisworks.com/site_..._render_AT.jpg

Also for the lap belts and crotch to make them true 5 point if you want. there are these seat belt bosses that can be welded into place that take all the bolt hardware that comes with belts:

https://www.cachassisworks.com/image...edium/6313.jpg

http://www.racequip.com/images/382_H...g_Hardware.jpg

ptc 01-19-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BR3W CITY (Post 7431657)
This is a Cali thing for the most part haha. I agree with you, but there are only a few places in the country where I've met police that know, can tell, and enforce the more enthusiast-oriented laws. Both to their credit, and their detriment.

I'll add that IIRC there are a few harnesses/belts/systems which are race legal, but not DOT legal.
You'll find plenty of cheap "just for looks" belts.
You'll find plenty of race-legal belts which aren't Nhra/SFI or DOT
You'll find a few race legal belts with all the sanctioning
You'll find a handful of good fully endorsed belts, and you'll pay for them.

I'm a big fan of buying used high end safety stuff, especially if your just using it for regular things, or in amateur competition where "current" gear is allowed provided its in working order. You won't pay much, and you know it might actually do something if you relied on it.

Dont know about "CALI"... only because LEOs they dont care, but the lawmakers have to do something at the capitol for MADD.... ;)

But YES...

you want to stay FAR FAR AWAY FROM THIS CHINESE JUNK or anything that resembles it !!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-5-...FU-JMc&vxp=mtr

71chevswb 01-26-2016 06:28 PM

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does anybody know what seats these are? I love the hidden roll cage, seats and seat belts.


https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/LA0...ey-Race-Truck/

Captainfab 01-27-2016 01:05 AM

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The add says they are Corvette seats..........

chad64chevy 02-25-2016 08:48 PM

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question on a 64 c10 can't you add a steel bar just below the window? like where the gas tank would be? it is below shoulder height but only like 2-6 inches I think, i'll have to check!

I'm wanting to add 4 point harnesses in my truck and I just bought buddy bucket seats, pic 1) shows bucket seat with 4 point harness! pic 2) has a bar above the seat but I can't find a good pic of the bar

Captainfab 02-26-2016 12:34 AM

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I don't remember what the dimension is but NHRA specifies a maximum distance below the drivers shoulders that the attachment point of the harness can be.

71chevswb 02-26-2016 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chad64chevy (Post 7499536)
question on a 64 c10 can't you add a steel bar just below the window? like where the gas tank would be? it is below shoulder height but only like 2-6 inches I think, i'll have to check!

I'm wanting to add 4 point harnesses in my truck and I just bought buddy bucket seats, pic 1) shows bucket seat with 4 point harness! pic 2) has a bar above the seat but I can't find a good pic of the bar

do you have a link to the trucks those pictures belong to? I need more info!

ptc 02-26-2016 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 7499845)
I don't remember what the dimension is but NHRA specifies a maximum distance below the drivers shoulders that the attachment point of the harness can be.

For autocross the NHRA rules dont matter one bit..... Typically SCCA rules will be in place for road-racing. Rules for roll bars and cages vary by sanctioning bodies.


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