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71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-09-2016 02:19 AM

RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
71 C-10 with A/C: Former gaps answered, but turns out there's a new mystery hole, see post 12.

RH Inner Fender

LockDoc 02-09-2016 12:28 PM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
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The ground strap is for grounding the front sheet metal.

Not sure where you mean on this one. A picture would certainly help.

All but a very few of the front sheet metal screws/bolts are the tapered style. If 90% of the screws/bolts that hold a certain piece on are tapered you can pretty much bet they all should be..... As far as I know none of the original screws/bolts were self tapping (notched thread)

Not sure what you are wanting to know about the other stuff.....

LockDoc

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-09-2016 01:10 PM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
Thanks again for response Doc. I agree, they're likely all supposed to be self-tapping. As for the other info., it gives someone a chance to point out any errors........... Edit: Just thought to look. Happy to say my RH fender is far better than expected. Just surface rust. I was a bit concerned about battery acid/rust factor. Battery box is shot, as well as the vapor can.

Two Images:

The first shows the two mystery holes in the RH inner fender. The 3rd hole in the image is for the core support nearest the radiator.

The second shows the two holes into the "pocket" (for lack of better term) of the fender. The LH hole is where the self-tapping screw was used. The RH is where a tapered screw is supposed to go into a fixed nut..........................................Perhaps they were lazy and I should weld it up? Worst case scenario is I have to re drill. That said as the image demonstrates, I wouldn't say it was off by a little. Then again, these fenders are a lot lighter than expected, so may have some room for flex. A few of the holes in the fender had been opened up a bit as well.

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hdff 02-09-2016 02:24 PM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
I believe the small hole is for a ground strap to the frame and the hole closest to it is where the radiator overflow tube goes thru

Davidf 02-09-2016 02:37 PM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hdff (Post 7479808)
I believe the small hole is for a ground strap to the frame and the hole closest to it is where the radiator overflow tube goes thru

+1, radiator overflow tube.

LockDoc 02-09-2016 03:17 PM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402 (Post 7479701)
Thanks again for response Doc. I agree, they're likely all supposed to be self-tapping. As for the other info., it gives someone a chance to point out any errors........... Edit: Just thought to look. Happy to say my RH fender is far better than expected. Just surface rust. I was a bit concerned about battery acid/rust factor. Battery box is shot, as well as the vapor can.

Two Images:

The first shows the two mystery holes in the RH inner fender. The 3rd hole in the image is for the core support nearest the radiator.

The second shows the two holes into the "pocket" (for lack of better term) of the fender. The LH hole is where the self-tapping screw was used. The RH is where a tapered screw is supposed to go into a fixed nut..........................................Perhaps they were lazy and I should weld it up? Worst case scenario is I have to re drill. That said as the image demonstrates, I wouldn't say it was off by a little. Then again, these fenders are a lot lighter than expected, so may have some room for flex. A few of the holes in the fender had been opened up a bit as well.


You mis-read my post. I stated "As far as I know none of the original screws/bolts were self tapping (notched thread)"

I'm wondering if the inner panels are older aftermarket units. That hole is off quite a bit and that would explain the light weight.....

LockDoc

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-09-2016 06:28 PM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hdff (Post 7479808)
I believe the small hole is for a ground strap to the frame and the hole closest to it is where the radiator overflow tube goes thru


Makes perfect sense, overflow tube. Thought the hole might be for drainage, but I didn't think about the radiator. As for the ground strap, I can only say the one on mine was located elsewhere on the fender, about 2" rear the lower radiator hose.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-09-2016 06:40 PM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 7479865)
You mis-read my post. I stated "As far as I know none of the original screws/bolts were self tapping (notched thread)"

I'm wondering if the inner panels are older aftermarket units. That hole is off quite a bit and that would explain the light weight.....

LockDoc

Only one was notched, which was for the hole per the second image. This was done because the hole in the "pocket" didn't line up with the hole in the inner fender, for whatever reason. Your message is all but a very few aren't tapered, or all should be tapered? If some not, do you know what else is used and where?

Not sure on those being aftermarkets. Even if they were replaced, I've owned the truck since 1989. I'd think OEM would still be available prior to that, though you did say "old repro". I suppose a shop could have done me wrong, but nobody other than myself has touched this in 10-15 years.

Primary reason I said it was light is I expected more weight. I've never moved one before. Perhaps an image of the entire fender is in order? I wonder what an OEM RH inner fender weighs? Mine is 9-10 pounds.

Edit: I haven't removed the LH fender yet. Will do so this weekend. For whatever it's worth, it has an emissions sticker. Some bubbling underneath. Probably need to replace, if that's possible

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71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-10-2016 11:59 PM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
No guesses for the small mystery hole in this image? It's the small dude on the right.........The image is of the front LH side of the RH inner fender.

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70STOVEBOLT 02-11-2016 11:54 AM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
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That should be the hole where the ground strap connects to the inner fender. i think someone moved it on you. See the pic.

hdff 02-11-2016 12:23 PM

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ditto.. with the radiator drain in this pic

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-13-2016 07:29 PM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 70STOVEBOLT (Post 7482189)
That should be the hole where the ground strap connects to the inner fender. i think someone moved it on you. See the pic.

Ah those guys! Thanks..................Perhaps the hole that was used for the ground strap is for another purpose? . Seems like a good spot for a retainer, for the hose line between the gas tank and vapor canister. Here's a picture of all three holes, (drain hose, intended ground strap and "real" mystery hole):


There's also a mystery hole in between the two holes for the water valve, nearly parallel with the other holes. Couldn't tell you. I suppose it's possible the fender is repro...Maybe came off something else. Just removed the LH fender, nothing unusual.

I've discovered the most difficult parts of this project are areas not factory when I got to it.


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71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-18-2016 12:57 AM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
Let me ask it another way. Does anyone have a 1971 or similar truck in original condition? If so, do you/don't you have that hole I'm pointing to on the RH inner fender, per the photo above? If so, what's it used for? I think it might be for the vapor line to the canister..........Could be an "error" too.

Thank you

70STOVEBOLT 02-18-2016 08:42 AM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
Not a factory hole.

Davidf 02-18-2016 10:24 AM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
Weld it up and be done with it. If you find out you need it later, drill a new hole.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-18-2016 01:02 PM

Re: RH inner fender removal/install - can anyone fill in the gaps?
 
Thanks for the responses, and true story David.


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