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phillipm 07-21-2016 12:50 PM

Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
I just finished my 78 Blazer and drove it for the first time last night. 2 biggest things are the lower control arm scrapes the ground on any bump larger than a leaf, and the tires rub the fenders pretty bad. Drop is a 2.5" spindle with a 2" spring. My LCA is 2.75" from the ground. That just seems really low to others on here that I've been looking at. If I swap to a 1" spring will that raise my arm to 3.75"? Or what's the best way to get some more clearance? My fender to ground measurement is 24.75" at the center of the tire..

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...psl0o237wf.jpg

bbbc10 07-21-2016 01:55 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
you can raise it up or get some lower control arms

phillipm 07-21-2016 01:57 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
But does it look lower than other trucks? Just trying to figure out if this is normal or i've got something weird going on.

bigblock73 07-21-2016 01:57 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
people do 4-5" front drops all the time. I have had 2 trucks, and never had any issues. Something is off. I would think with those tall fronts, you would have fender rub but not LCA issues.

What brand spindles and springs?

Tom 07-21-2016 02:09 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
Both my 78 and my old 79 were 5" drop in front using 2" springs. Yes, the control arms are close to the ground. But its never been an issues EXCEPT once, crossroad was raised a good 2-3" inches from ours from construction and its really smashed them good. Otherwise I've put 50,000+ miles on the setup with never an issue......

SkinnyG 07-21-2016 03:25 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
I have 3" spindles, and 1-ton coils cut until the 235/70R15 tires are even with the top fender edge (about a coil and a half - so.... 2 or 3 more inches?).

I cannot slip a 2x4 on edge under the control arms, but I have never hit anything with them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/09...pszj8pizjk.jpg

Mind you, I've been driving lowered vehicles for years. I have one vehicle where the lowest point is 1-1/2" off the ground.

Mr.Chevy4x4 07-21-2016 07:54 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
Post up a ground view picture from the front looking at the control arms. It looks low, but not low enough to be dragging control arms. Are you sure that they are dragging?

Mike

phillipm 07-21-2016 08:15 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigblock73 (Post 7660365)
people do 4-5" front drops all the time. I have had 2 trucks, and never had any issues. Something is off. I would think with those tall fronts, you would have fender rub but not LCA issues.

What brand spindles and springs?

Thanks for the reply gentleman. I've owned lowered vehicles my entire life so definitely not something new to me. Went by Switch Suspension today and those guys came out and had a look. Agreed those LCA's are SUPER close to the ground. Sucks cause the truck looks great. I picked up some 1" springs to swap out the 2" drop springs with.

This is a picture of the underside. I know it's not a good one but that lowest part of the arm is 2.75" from the ground.

Thinking of getting some heavy duty shocks too to try and help? What shocks are you guy running?

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...psbbjn1lmw.jpg

SkinnyG 07-21-2016 08:51 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
Shocks won't help the ride height any; they don't hold up the vehicle.

I run stock, cheapie, Monroe blue.

SkinnyG 07-21-2016 08:52 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
What is the front tire size?

Maybe a larger diameter tire would be easier?

phillipm 07-21-2016 08:53 PM

I agree. Was just thinking it wouldn't drop down so much when I hit bumps. That's all.
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lilpoindexter 07-21-2016 10:00 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
I have a 78 c10 short step 2wd. I assume the entire front end is the same as your truck. I have 2.5" spindles and 2' springs too... i used whatever the standard size equivalent tire to stock is on a 6.5". My control arms look parrallel to the ground, but they have never touched anything. my tires...however...are always bumping into the inner fenders...They make a loud ass thud that startles me everytime.

midnight rambler 07-21-2016 10:55 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
I have the same drop on my 74 done by the previous owner I just measured my arms I have 3" clearance with 17's on low profiles. If I go to fast sometime my arms drag as well.

UKNOWME 07-22-2016 12:07 AM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
How about you sell me the blazer and I'll worry about the control arms
:gi:

bbbc10 07-22-2016 12:12 AM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
I had 5" drop in the front also an my controls dragged the ground

phillipm 07-22-2016 01:11 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbbc10 (Post 7660953)
I had 5" drop in the front also an my controls dragged the ground

Did you end up raising it up?

phillipm 07-22-2016 01:14 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
Here are some pictures you guys wanted to see..
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...psztjjodo4.jpg

Asphalt on the control arm.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...psqhw0fqzq.jpg

2x4:
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...pswgasu6to.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...psgoz0snlz.jpg

SkinnyG 07-22-2016 01:53 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
What is your front tire size?

lolife99 07-22-2016 02:00 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
This is all perfectly normal with the drop you have.
That's why the Porterbuilt extreme Dropmembers are so popular.
You gain 3" of ground clearance over what you have at that ride height.
That's your best bet to gain ground clearance.
They make a NICE coil over setup for people that don't want bags,...

phillipm 07-22-2016 02:14 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyG (Post 7661379)
What is your front tire size?

255 60 R15 Is the tire size

phillipm 07-22-2016 02:15 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 7661384)
This is all perfectly normal with the drop you have.
That's why the Porterbuilt extreme Dropmembers are so popular.
You gain 3" of ground clearance over what you have at that ride height.
That's your best bet to gain ground clearance.
They make a NICE coil over setup for people that don't want bags,...

Yeah no doubt. I actually laser engrave their parts so I've seen first hand the quality. Just don't have that kind of cash. it's too bad someone doesn't just make a new lower arm that accepts a stock coil spring but is tubular.

lolife99 07-22-2016 02:24 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
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Originally Posted by phillipm (Post 7661401)
Yeah no doubt. I actually laser engrave their parts so I've seen first hand the quality. Just don't have that kind of cash. it's too bad someone doesn't just make a new lower arm that accepts a stock coil spring but is tubular.

Porterbuilt makes a tubular a-arm that accepts a coil spring.
But that won't help.
This crossmember saddle is still the mounting point for all tubular a-arms as well.
Ground clearance will be the same.

bbbc10 07-22-2016 02:46 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
No i ended up totaling the frame due to the control arms getting caught on rail road tracks and it threw my truck up in the air an it slammed back down...it bent the frame under the cab an cracked the frame behind the front left shock an the twisted the whole front to the right.....so i got thorbros front crossmember mmw arms an ekstensive rear kit to bag it

phillipm 07-22-2016 04:46 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 7661410)
Porterbuilt makes a tubular a-arm that accepts a coil spring.
But that won't help.
This crossmember saddle is still the mounting point for all tubular a-arms as well.
Ground clearance will be the same.

I was thinking that if the center line of the arm is now raised and in line with the bushings that would easily add 1.5" to the ground clearance, if that makes sense.

SkinnyG 07-22-2016 05:44 PM

Re: Lower Control Arm Drags Ground after drop
 
Your tires are a good 3" shorter in diameter than mine. Which (by radius), means you'd have an inch and a half more clearance with taller tires.


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