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KSTHANE 10-12-2016 02:18 PM

Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
I have another thread on here asking about a wheel/tire combo which I have made progress on going forward with. However, my truck does not have power steering and I would like to add it. I've been told it's "easy" by a guy that works on trucks but I have my doubts.

Does anyone have thoughts on how big a project that would be, and how would you go about acquiring the parts to do it?

Qwk 10-12-2016 03:39 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
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Originally Posted by KSTHANE (Post 7740359)
I have another thread on here asking about a wheel/tire combo which I have made progress on going forward with. However, my truck does not have power steering and I would like to add it. I've been told it's "easy" by a guy that works on trucks but I have my doubts.

Does anyone have thoughts on how big a project that would be, and how would you go about acquiring the parts to do it?

I converted my to PS and it really is easy. I bought a new/reman steering box and arm from Rock auto and it bolts right back in place.
Now with the PS reservoir you will also need to get the brackets along with some new lines.
But nothing is hard about the swap.

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...psejlin1of.jpg

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...psbthopvs6.jpg

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old Rusty C10 10-12-2016 03:42 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
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Originally Posted by Qwk (Post 7740404)
I converted my to PS and it really is easy. I bought a new/reman steering box and arm from Rock auto and it bolts right back in place.
Now with the PS reservoir you will also need to get the brackets along with some new lines.
But nothing is hard about the swap.

you may have to change the pulley on the damper wheel to accommodate the extra pulley. it is not hard and these parts should be available on ebay, craigslist and or the local junkyard

barry1982 10-13-2016 11:18 AM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
I have added power steering to a few trucks over the years. In my opinion, the easiest/cheapest way to go is to strip all of the components off of a junk yard truck. Make sure your "donor" truck has the same engine as yours , and you should be good to go. All of the parts will bolt up.

KSTHANE 10-13-2016 12:06 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
I have looked at the vehicle inventory of all of the local junkyards around me and don't find my model in any of their yards. I'm not experienced enough to know which other years of my truck, or other models of my truck share my exact engine. I have the 6 cylinder RWD from 1984.

Edit: I think I'll just order the power steering components off of RockAuto as mentioned above. Thanks for those pics, by the way. I see a power steering pump and power steering pitman arm on there for my year. Am I correct in assuming that I'll basically need to buy every other component that is labeled power steering on their website, except for the repair kits? These are all the components listed outside of the two parts previously mentioned(gear and arm):

Power Steering Cooler
Power Steering Cooler Mount
Power Steering Filter
Power Steering Hydraulic Filter (not sure what the diff is b/w this and the one above)
Power Steering pressure hose
Power Steering Pump
Power Steering Reservoir cap
Power Steering Return Hose
Power Steering Return Line End Fitting

DieselSJ 10-13-2016 06:39 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwk (Post 7740404)
I converted my to PS and it really is easy. I bought a new/reman steering box and arm from Rock auto and it bolts right back in place.
Now with the PS reservoir you will also need to get the brackets along with some new lines.
But nothing is hard about the swap.

How is the quality of the RockAuto box? I haven't had good luck with the chain auto parts stuff - just as much slop as the box I want to replace.

Qwk 10-14-2016 10:19 AM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
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Originally Posted by DieselSJ (Post 7741448)
How is the quality of the RockAuto box? I haven't had good luck with the chain auto parts stuff - just as much slop as the box I want to replace.

It was an GM unit. RA had the best price on it.

100%Chevy 10-14-2016 08:47 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
For a 250,I-6(non california smog engine),you don't need all that parts list,just the steering gear box and pitman arm.The rest you will need is I/6 specific!
For the six,there is a bracket that mounts the pump and also the alternator as a unit.There are a few variations on this set-up because of the differences in the head from year to year.So,get the parts for your exact year!This is the set that people are always looking for on the parts board!
Once you find the right set-up,it's not very hard to do the job.
I've done it to my 78,as well as factory a/c.
Mike.:chevy:

barry1982 10-15-2016 12:19 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
I agree you do not need most of the parts on the list you got from RA. Even the new pump will probably come without the bracket(s) you need to mount it on your truck. Unfortunately for you, most of the pickups in the mid eighties came with small block V-8's. You will have a lot harder time finding a donor with an inline 6, but they are around. Expand you search. Some of the auto wreckers have a computer system that they can use to search inventory at other wreckers in your area.

KSTHANE 10-15-2016 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by barry1982 (Post 7742859)
I agree you do not need most of the parts on the list you got from RA. Even the new pump will probably come without the bracket(s) you need to mount it on your truck. Unfortunately for you, most of the pickups in the mid eighties came with small block V-8's. You will have a lot harder time finding a donor with an inline 6, but they are around. Expand you search. Some of the auto wreckers have a computer system that they can use to search inventory at other wreckers in your area.

Nice to know I wont need to buy that whole parts list. So in the pic I attached, I'll remove that manual box and swap with a power box, and then down below I'll swap an arm? Are you saying that I don't need to buy the pump b/c I already have one by my alternator or that I DO still need to buy that along with the proper mounting bracket. I guess i'd be surprised if I only have to buy two parts for this. I thought the pump sent fluid to the gearbox and then back?

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DieselSJ 10-16-2016 02:17 AM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
You will need the box, pump, mounting brackets for pump (possibly new pulleys and belt) and pressure and return lines. You don't need the cooler or brackets or filters that you have listed.

barry1982 10-16-2016 09:50 AM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
If your truck never came with P/S, you will not have a P/S pump on your engine. as DieselSJ said, you will also need the crank shaft pulleys off of a truck with P/S to accommodate the extra v-belt you need to drive your P/S pump. In my area, there seemed to be more trucks with 6 cylinders in the mid 70's than the mid 80's. You could use one of these as a "donor". Like I said earlier, they are no where near a common as a truck with a small block V8, but still a few around. Another factor is a lot of the trucks with 6 cylinders were "plain jane's".....and never came with P/S or P/B. I had a 74 and a 76.
I ended up converting both to V-8's , and installed P/S at that time.

Gmc.guy 10-16-2016 09:46 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
I have some of the parts to swap to power steering on a 250 left over I have the bracket that mounts the alternator and pump but not the upper bracket. and the water pump pulley. The balancer has the pulley grooves cast in bad they are further apart for the power steering set up than the manual. I don't have the top bracket for the pump, I used it on another truck and can take pictures for you to show what it looks like. If you can get the whole setup out of a 250 truck or van from 73-8? Lots of vans and trucks had the setup. I have 3 250's I can post pics tomorrow

Gmc.guy 10-16-2016 09:47 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
Note- the steering box is different to a van, but the pump and brackets will work

Gmc.guy 10-19-2016 11:01 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
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This is my 74 without power steering It should be similar to yours

Gmc.guy 10-19-2016 11:04 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
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This is an 81 non integrated head engine I have for parts You can see the bracket for the pump / alternator and the wider spaced pulleys I put the pump and upper bracket on a 77 integrated head engine I have in another truck I'll snap a pic tomorrow for you

KSTHANE 10-22-2016 03:45 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
Got my new tires and rims on today and it is remarkably easier to steer than it was before. I may still add this eventually but I no longer have a burning desire. I'm going to bookmark this thread for the future though. Thanks for all the input guys.
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barry1982 10-23-2016 11:12 PM

Re: Adding power steering to an '84 C10
 
I found that if you keep your front end(tie rod ends/ball joints/ idler/pitman ) well greased, non power steering vehicles turn easier as well.


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