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ocbaud 10-27-2003 08:32 PM

what can i rip out?(pics)
 
http://www.ocbaud.com/pics/crap/crap1.JPG
http://www.ocbaud.com/pics/crap/crap2.JPG
http://www.ocbaud.com/pics/crap/crap3.JPG
http://www.ocbaud.com/pics/crap/crap4.JPG
http://www.ocbaud.com/pics/crap/crap5.JPG
http://www.ocbaud.com/pics/crap/crap6.JPG

the last picture above, the rectangle that has wires coming out, half of those go to the lights, the other half goes to crap that isnt hooked up at the moment.


i took some of the cruise control crap out already

crackajacka 10-27-2003 08:51 PM

haha looks like mines did, ill take a picture, looks like youve got a th350c or 700r4 lockup harness that isnt plugged in but can be removed

ocbaud 10-27-2003 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crackajacka
haha looks like mines did, ill take a picture, looks like youve got a th350c or 700r4 lockup harness that isnt plugged in but can be removed
th350c

yeah, we unhooked it from the tranny to help disconnect everything from the engine.

i really dont want the lockup anyway

crackajacka 10-27-2003 11:42 PM

This is how mine looks now. in your 4th pick that vaccum goes to the wireing harness for the trans lockup. the 3rd picture i belive is just your computer harness. thats all i can identify right now. just follow the wires and if the goto nothing then pull em
http://www.paulwall.us/pics/1.jpg
http://www.paulwall.us/pics/2.jpg
http://www.paulwall.us/pics/3.jpg

1FaastC10 10-28-2003 12:37 AM

man Eric, i wish i was closer. i just removed all that crap from my truck. i could probably do it again in my sleep. but to explain it would be out of the question. i cant reember all the crap that i removed.

crackajacka 10-28-2003 12:48 AM

btw eric are u just going to put in a emissions free engine?

ocbaud 10-28-2003 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crackajacka
btw eric are u just going to put in a emissions free engine?
yes

crackajacka 10-28-2003 01:00 AM

ok then u need very little to run. :D

low 84 10-28-2003 02:07 AM

are you keeping the a/c?

ocbaud 10-28-2003 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by low 84
are you keeping the a/c?
yes

TIMSPEED 10-28-2003 04:22 AM

Hey Crackajacka,
What is that little box with the red wire running to it, on your firewall? I have that too with a BUNCH of wires hanging from it, what is SUPPOSED to be going to/from it? :confused:

crackajacka 10-28-2003 11:31 AM

ok the red wire running off to the passengerside runs over in front of the blower motor to a silver relay, which one wire runs to the blower motor then about 8 wires run from there back into the cab. then i think one of the drivers side cables runs back into the fuse block, and i think the other goes to the starter but im not sure about the ones on the drivers side ill look later on when im re wireing everything

Izzy 10-28-2003 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crackajacka
ok the red wire running off to the passengerside runs over in front of the blower motor to a silver relay, which one wire runs to the blower motor then about 8 wires run from there back into the cab. then i think one of the drivers side cables runs back into the fuse block, and i think the other goes to the starter but im not sure about the ones on the drivers side ill look later on when im re wireing everything
Yep one of them goes from the ignition switch to the starter and I believe another runs up to the fusible link on the firewall. :D

Jonboy 10-28-2003 12:39 PM

If you are going to keep the 350C, you really need to keep the lockup, or change the converter. Not running the lockup in a 350C or 700R4 will burn it up in a hurry. That is my "voice of experience".

ocbaud 10-28-2003 02:53 PM

i was gonna get a newer torque conveter anyway. i'll need it with the cam i'm gonna have.

i was gonna get a 2800-3000 stall conveter.

so other than replacing the conveter, what else do i need to do to convert the th350c to a normal th350?

1FaastC10 10-28-2003 02:54 PM

350C will live just fine without the lockup hooked up. when i was 16 my grandpa and i had my TH350C rebuilt, and the trans guy actually recomeneded that we leave it unhooked. that trans is still alive today and has about 85,000 miles on it since the rebuild.

Eric, since you're removing everything else but keeping the AC, you'll be doing exactly as i did. the wires you'll need will be for the starter alternator and the coil (obviously) as well as the AC compensator (mounted to the drivers side of the carb), coolant temp sensor in the drivers side head, and the AC compressor clutch. everything else can go away. you might also want to look into an alternate way to hook up your lockup if you intend on keeping it. there's got to be another way to do it that's much cleaner. make sure you hook up the vac line that runs into the firewall on the passenger side (mnifold vac) or your AC wont work right. other than that, everything can go

1FaastC10 10-28-2003 02:57 PM

Eric, to convert a TH350C to a TH350, you need a TH350. they're two different animals. the TH350C has extra passages and switches in the valve body for converter lockup. also, the splines on the input shaft are different, so a TH350 converter wont work on a TH350C.

ocbaud 10-28-2003 07:09 PM

so can i just "tear out" the lock up controls?

1FaastC10 10-28-2003 07:21 PM

yes, if you're planning on running a TH350. if not, i'd leave it there and hook it back up.

ocbaud 10-28-2003 07:29 PM

http://www.ocbaud.com/pics/crap/crap3.JPG

in that picture it shows the esc plug.

the plug going to http://www.ocbaud.com/pics/crap/crap4.JPG is spliced into the esc plug.

what do i do about that?

1FaastC10 10-28-2003 09:17 PM

ditch that too. you'll need to either run a standard HEI distributor, or modify your ESC distributor.

ocbaud 10-28-2003 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1FaastC10
ditch that too. you'll need to either run a standard HEI distributor, or modify your ESC distributor.
there is a plug spliced into it. that plug runs to the conveter lock up thing with the vacuum hose.

if i ditch the esc plug, the plug for the tranny lockup is gone too.

thats what i'm wondering about.

i dont care if the tranny doesnt lockup or not.

1FaastC10 10-28-2003 09:29 PM

the ESC and trans lockup are 2 different systems. you should have another vac deal on the drivers side behind the booster. that one is for the TCC, the other one has to do with ESC.

ocbaud 10-28-2003 09:36 PM

http://www.ocbaud.com/pics/crap/crap4.JPG
http://www.ocbaud.com/pics/crap/crap3.JPG

thats part of the tcc, right? well the wires coming out from the left of it, run down and splice into the esc plug

1FaastC10 10-28-2003 10:29 PM

your setup must be different than mine. mine was hooked into an almost identical piece on the drivers side behind the booster.


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