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Mryan 03-28-2018 07:50 AM

Struggling with windshield trim
 
I removed my windshield and purchased a new seal and trim for my 71 GMC. I am ready to assemble and put back in and am struggling with the trim strips in the seal. I have the seal installed on the glass and am fitting the trim without lube and get about halfway down and the trim pops back out of the seal. I have tried holding it in with tape and getting some help holding it in but keeps popping back out. It looks like to me the new seal is too far down in the back (farthest from the glass) to hold the trim in place once in. Anyone have any suggestions or tips?

rockyrivermark 03-28-2018 08:00 AM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Here's what I've found with the same struggles along with many others here.
1. There are two types of trim and seal so make sure you have the correct one and they match each other. There is a seal and trim with a short leg on the trim (71-72) and there is a long leg that the leg actually goes behind the glass (69-70)
2. Aftermarket trim doesn't fit! Find OEM used trim.
Search the forum and you'll find some more good info on it also
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Mark

Steve Cole 03-28-2018 11:18 AM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
I was told you need to install the trim in the seal first, then install the windshield with the seal/trim together. Can someone confirm this?

rockyrivermark 03-28-2018 11:21 AM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Yes that is correct.

Artofdeath 03-28-2018 11:37 AM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
I found this video on how to replace the glass, if you haven't seen it yet it maybe worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOXTbtjq_mc

davepl 03-28-2018 12:25 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Make absolutely sure you have the right seal for your year and stainless trim. They changed depths one year and the stuff from later will NOT work with the earlier seal and vice versa, it's just impossible.

Trouble is even if you have the right stuff it can still SEEM impossible so that's not informative; but check to make doubly sure the part numbers are right for your year!

randy.powell 03-28-2018 01:26 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
So the 67-70 trim "L" channel is 5/8" long and the 71-72 trim "L" is 3/8" long. Make sure you have the proper gasket for the year of trim you are using. The truck doesn't care which version you use as long as it's a matched set. A large number of us have switched to the 67-70 OEM trim w/matching Precision gasket in hopes that it would be the magic solution. It's not.

You will never get the aftermarket trim to work The angles and curvature to the long top piece are not even close to the OEM pieces.

You can read on the forum for hours about the difficulties we all have with something that shouldn't be so difficult.

Something else I found is that the glass you have to buy today is 7mm thick. My old windshield (circa 1980's Safelite etched "made in USA") is 9mm thick.

I ended up using my old windshield with the 67-70 trim with the correct Precision gasket after cracking the piece of crap aftermarket PGW (stamped Made in China) glass cracked during install at about 98% of the process. I'm still trying to locate Pittsburg, China to no avail...

On the second attempt, we had success with the thicker (old) windshield, 67-70 stainless trim w/matching gasket. Fortunately I kept my old windshield in the shop and it cleaned up amazingly well. No chips, scratches, or fogging. Was the installation perfect? Heck no, about a 90% solution.

The whole process is so miserable that a lot of guys are not even putting the trim back on...

Anyway, wish you the best of luck.
Randy




















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davepl 03-28-2018 01:42 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
A friend and I had mine in and out about 10 times but could never get it perfect with the trim. I wound up taking it in because I found a place with a guy old enough to have done them back in the day, and he managed it! So I would have deemed it impossible until I actually saw it completed...

Artofdeath 03-29-2018 09:52 AM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Mryan, please let us know how you make out. If you are able to get it done and how or if you decided to go another way.

Thanks!

Mryan 03-29-2018 01:05 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
I'm going after it again tonight with a few fresh ideas from everyone. I'll let you know how I fare..

rockyrivermark 03-29-2018 02:37 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Ive read some swear Ky jelly in gasket groove helps a lot.

darrellyates 03-29-2018 03:20 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
We used aftermarket trim, gasket from Precision, and a reproduction windshield. There has to be a little work performed to accomplish this, but it can be done.

Yes, the curve of the trim was off a little on the passenger side upper. This was corrected by gently trimming "V's" into the back of the trim to get it to bite and stay in the groove.

Made sure the gasket and trim are for the same year. They are correct, there are 2 different gaskets and trim pieces.

Lastly, you do install the gasket and then the trim on the glass first. Use plenty of lubricant when you pull the gasket into the windshield (with a rope or string). Some open hand persuasion was required to get it to properly go into the groove. (Yes, gently pressing and tapping of the glass into the opening.)

An "Old Time" window guy did both of mine. You can say they fit/don't fit. Mine look pretty darn good. My truck did not come with the trim on the glass, but I think it makes the truck.

It can be done. Just trying to encourage.

Stay after it, you will ultimately win!!

Grumpy old man 03-29-2018 03:47 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
There are 2 different gaskets and sets of trim , the 67-70 trim sits deeper in the gasket ,The gasket is installed on the glass first then the trim is inserted into the gasket . mark center lines on the glass / gasket / and truck to help the install process . it's best if you can assemble the glass and trim tape it all in place then let it sit in a warm spot until your ready to install. It's way easier than everyone makes it out to be .:chevy:

rockyrivermark 03-29-2018 04:19 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darrellyates (Post 8225130)
We used aftermarket trim, gasket from Precision, and a reproduction windshield. There has to be a little work performed to accomplish this, but it can be done.

Yes, the curve of the trim was off a little on the passenger side upper. This was corrected by gently trimming "V's" into the back of the trim to get it to bite and stay in the groove.

Made sure the gasket and trim are for the same year. They are correct, there are 2 different gaskets and trim pieces.

Lastly, you do install the gasket and then the trim on the glass first. Use plenty of lubricant when you pull the gasket into the windshield (with a rope or string). Some open hand persuasion was required to get it to properly go into the groove. (Yes, gently pressing and tapping of the glass into the opening.)

An "Old Time" window guy did both of mine. You can say they fit/don't fit. Mine look pretty darn good. My truck did not come with the trim on the glass, but I think it makes the truck.

It can be done. Just trying to encourage.

Stay after it, you will ultimately win!!

Where did you buy your trim?
Thanks
Mark

Mryan 03-29-2018 04:45 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
I purchased seal and trim from GMC Pauls, the trim ultimately shipped from Brothers

rockyrivermark 03-29-2018 08:41 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mryan (Post 8225213)
I purchased seal and trim from GMC Pauls, the trim ultimately shipped from Brothers

That's great info for us who struggle.
Long leg trim 69-70 or
Short leg trim 71-72?
I'm guessing the short leg is easier?

Grumpy old man 03-29-2018 09:08 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyrivermark (Post 8225412)
That's great info for us who struggle.
Long leg trim 69-70 or
Short leg trim 71-72?
I'm guessing the short leg is easier?

No. The long trim is easier it stays in the gasket better --67-70 :chevy:

darrellyates 03-29-2018 09:37 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyrivermark (Post 8225188)
Where did you buy your trim?
Thanks
Mark

Trim came from LMC. Rear Glass and Gasket were from Southern Kentucky. On the front windshield, the installer supplied the glass and gasket, and used the aftermarket trim from LMC.

Side glass is a Brother's kit. Of all the various stuff, the side glass weatherstripping with the chrome fit worst of all...

darrellyates 03-29-2018 09:39 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyrivermark (Post 8225412)
That's great info for us who struggle.
Long leg trim 69-70 or
Short leg trim 71-72?
I'm guessing the short leg is easier?

The previous answer you got I agree with. My cab is actually a 1970. That's what I ordered everything for. The longer trim does seem to work a little better according to what I've seen.

Again, it took a little time and I had a professional. Mine is fine.

Mryan 03-30-2018 09:22 AM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
So I was able to get the trim installed last night (finally!)
The best informational video that worked for me is the LMC truck video (thanks to artofdeath for the link)
I have it ready to go in this weekend it is roped and taped, any tips before I attempt?

rockyrivermark 03-30-2018 10:56 AM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mryan (Post 8225752)
So I was able to get the trim installed last night (finally!)
The best informational video that worked for me is the LMC truck video (thanks to artofdeath for the link)
I have it ready to go in this weekend it is roped and taped, any tips before I attempt?

For me getting the trim in the gasket was the easy part.
Say a few prayers and lube the gasket.
At least 3 people to install in my opinion. You can hit the glass with an open hand to work it in. That helps a lot.
Post results.
Good luck?

davepl 03-30-2018 11:00 AM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Wait... you got the trim installed, but not installed with the glass? That was never the challenge for me, that always went pretty smooth! It wasn't until I tried to rope it in that it'd pop out on me. Good luck to you!

Artofdeath 03-30-2018 11:01 AM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Great news! Hope it goes well! Please call me Art, Death is so Formal!

Mryan 04-01-2018 04:56 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
Am I screwed and have to start over or has anyone successfully installed this trim while the window is in place?http://http://67-72chevytrucks.com/v...p?albumid=2470

Mryan 04-01-2018 04:59 PM

Re: Struggling with windshield trim
 
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