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BigLittle 01-25-2019 05:10 AM

Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
Should I just stick to the carb engine and save money or go with the 5.3 and all the wiring and computer?
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MARKDTN 01-25-2019 08:50 AM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
no

52napco 01-25-2019 08:56 AM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
Done properly it's the best money you'll ever spend

FL72GMC 01-25-2019 10:19 AM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
I am in the process of doing a 5.3/4l60 swap into my 72 GMC long bed. I over research everything I do. I priced everything for replacing my SBC and doing this swap. I am almost done and I have spent less on this swap than I would have on a SBC crate engine and rebuilt transmission. Once you add in all the torque converter and all the little bits SBC's are not cheap either. I will have $4500 into this swap. Keep in mind that includes new gas tank, fuel pump, driveshaft, engine, transmission, and all the little parts and fluids that come with it.

el_fantasma 01-25-2019 10:50 AM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
The engine and transmission are new?

FL72GMC 01-25-2019 12:11 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
No mine have 80k on them. Had both gone through by a transmission shop and machine shop. All good. The guy I got them through programmed the computer and cut down the harness.

Coley 01-25-2019 12:40 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
...more importantly, what are you trying to achieve?
What kind of truck? resto-mod? daily driver or part time weekend stuff? highly original truck? how often do you drive it and how hard? How much is your budget....and lastly, How much is your budget? (lol)

Answering these will steer you to the right choice.

whitels1 01-25-2019 01:34 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
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Originally Posted by FL72GMC (Post 8450615)
I am in the process of doing a 5.3/4l60 swap into my 72 GMC long bed. I over research everything I do. I priced everything for replacing my SBC and doing this swap. I am almost done and I have spent less on this swap than I would have on a SBC crate engine and rebuilt transmission. Once you add in all the torque converter and all the little bits SBC's are not cheap either. I will have $4500 into this swap. Keep in mind that includes new gas tank, fuel pump, driveshaft, engine, transmission, and all the little parts and fluids that come with it.

Pretty much this!

Rebuild vs Rebuild the price is a wash, it's definitely some work and research but it's well worth it. I've often thought about just keeping it simple with a small block, but having it run the same all the time, have great power(stock), and improved fuel mileage. You just can't beat it.

webfoot 01-25-2019 01:42 PM

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If you can find a 5.3 with lower miles and good compression and avoid one that needs a rebuild (maybe just new gaskets) you will be money ahead. These motors can go a long time with proper maintenance.

If you're like me its hard to leave the stock cam in there and then of course that leads to a valve spring upgrade, so that is a few extra $$$.

demian5 01-25-2019 01:57 PM

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Im on the fence here, I just broke the crank in my 350 and have another motor already, but need a trans rebuild.

Grumpy old man 01-25-2019 02:13 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
I'd keep what you already have .:chevy:

trac209 01-25-2019 02:37 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
If it’s a daily driver and you need the extra mpg I say go for it,otherwise from my experience it’s kind of underwhelming. I considered the swap myself until I rode in a few swapped LS vehicles and wasn’t impressed, slap a turbo in front of it and yeah you can make some hp but that can be said for a Sbc as well.

webfoot 01-25-2019 03:50 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
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Originally Posted by trac209 (Post 8450785)
If it’s a daily driver and you need the extra mpg I say go for it,otherwise from my experience it’s kind of underwhelming. I considered the swap myself until I rode in a few swapped LS vehicles and wasn’t impressed, slap a turbo in front of it and yeah you can make some hp but that can be said for a Sbc as well.

That is part of the allure, you get stock 6 bolt mains and can run them up to pretty high HP with stock internals. Also you start with a 345 HP aluminum headed roller motor instead of 200 flat tappet and iron heads, or do a cam upgrade in the LS and make 400.

I agree its not necessary for everyone. I am putting one in my 62 pontiac because the cost of overhauling that old poncho is more than the motor is worth, and probably on par with an LS swap.

You can get a brand new LM7 5.3 block from summit with cam bearings installed for $300 plus $159 freight.

trac209 01-25-2019 03:59 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
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Originally Posted by webfoot (Post 8450841)
That is part of the allure, you get stock 6 bolt mains and can run them up to pretty high HP with stock internals. Also you start with a 345 HP aluminum headed roller motor instead of 200 flat tappet and iron heads, or do a cam upgrade in the LS and make 400.

I agree its not necessary for everyone. I am putting one in my 62 pontiac because the cost of overhauling that old poncho is more than the motor is worth, and probably on par with an LS swap.

You can get a brand new LM7 5.3 block from summit with cam bearings installed for $300 plus $159 freight.

LS in a Pontiac now that’s blasphemy lol just kidding of course.

palallin 01-25-2019 04:41 PM

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I have a 5.3 in my wife's Tahoe. I would NEVER put one in my truck. I could never drive it long enough to make good on the $$$ investment, and my 327 is much tougher.

rjs53 01-25-2019 05:09 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
I'm at the same point. I have a SBC, solid roller cam AFR210 heads and vic jr intake. With a 715 lift on the cam its not a street friendly motor, but just to change cam and go hydraulic roller lifter and different intake I can almost buy a junk yard 5.3 or 6.0 with 4 speed trans and drive it for a while.

demian5 01-25-2019 05:37 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by palallin (Post 8450879)
I have a 5.3 in my wife's Tahoe. I would NEVER put one in my truck. I could never drive it long enough to make good on the $$$ investment, and my 327 is much tougher.

5.3 is a 327 BTW...

renegade6 01-25-2019 08:30 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
This is a very hard call. I'm in the process of doing one on my wife's truck. These get pricey at the $100-20 mark; each part is in this range and it adds up really quickly. I knew the cam was going out in the stock 350 and I balanced the swap against a cam replacement and fuel injection on a small block versus an LS swap. I've done one swap already and have figured out some ways to make it cheaper.

garyd1961 01-25-2019 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by demian5 (Post 8450920)
5.3 is a 327 BTW...

Maybe but it has nothing in common with the old 327 except cubit inches.

jcwren 01-25-2019 09:04 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
Why a 5.3, and not a 6.0? Serious question, since an LS swap is in the future for my '70 w/ a 250.

renegade6 01-25-2019 09:42 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
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Originally Posted by jcwren (Post 8451052)
Why a 5.3, and not a 6.0? Serious question, since an LS swap is in the future for my '70 w/ a 250.

6.0 is not as common as a 5.3 and therefore; more expensive for most.

rjs53 01-25-2019 10:26 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
Very true about the 5.3 being more common, but if You look on line they about the same depending on mileage. Personally I would go to the local salvage yard before that. found Tahoe's and Yukon on CL for 2-3k, and some are pretty nice. If you have the room you could buy the vehicle take everything you need from radiator to fuel pump and sell the carcass. If you like the carburetor, rebuild your old motor and throw and overdrive trans in it. Decisions, decisions.

Slowguy 01-25-2019 11:40 PM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
I’m doing a 6.0 with a turbo. So from what I’ve read that’s about 200 hp for the stock 327 if I’m lucky. If all goes well I’ll get 500-550 whp with this turbo ls. I actually don’t see how I can use all the power. So I’m added much more tire in the rear and posi. I never really drove the original 327 more than a few miles before I started ripping it all apart but it would smoke (at least the one wheel) from a launch. I can’t sven imagine what this turbo ls will be like.

I bought an entire donor truck for 1200 and could have thrown it in as it was but I decided to completely rebuild it. I’ve been told you can get a 5.3 donor for even cheaper. It’s difficult to beat the price/ value/power of these engines but I’ll be able to tell you more definitely for sure this spring when I get it rolling :)

GASoline71 01-26-2019 01:40 AM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man (Post 8450771)
I'd keep what you already have .:chevy:

Yup... :)

I have not drank the LS Kool-aid. :lol:

Gary

treveiger 01-26-2019 07:20 AM

Re: Is 5.3 swap to much money and work?
 
5.3 swaps are great and tons of people have done them so the guess work is pretty much gone. With that being said I will probably just get a crate 350 or rebuild one due to the fact that I like the whole old truck feel when it comes time to replace.


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