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KMC3420 11-22-2019 01:08 PM

NiCopp brake lines
 
I am in the planning stage of plumbing my brake lines and I have decided to go the NiCopp route. My truck is a 68, converting to 5 lug and disc/disc. I haven't decided on a master cylinder yet.
Few questions I have below:

1. Are there specific fittings for NiCopp lines? I keep seeing reference for Black Oxide fittings as opposed to Stainless or Brass. Wouldn't the Black Oxide fittings be steel?
2. Is it acceptable to use 3/16" lines for each hardline, or do I need to use 1/4" lines at any point? I think the lines that run across the rear axle were originally 3/16", but the rest were possibly 1/4"? .
3. Any suggestions for a disc/disc Master cylinder?

Thanks!

Willie Makeit 11-25-2019 12:34 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
I used NiCop lines and used standard cad-plated steel fittings, 3/16" tubing both front and rear. Look up Pirate Jack on ebay for your master cylinder and prop valve. Ive used them on about 4-5 builds and never had a problem and have gotten EXCELLENT customer service.

http://www.ebaystores.com/Pirate-Jac...oration?_rdc=1

KMC3420 11-25-2019 01:10 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Makeit (Post 8632797)
I used NiCop lines and used standard cad-plated steel fittings, 3/16" tubing both front and rear. Look up Pirate Jack on ebay for your master cylinder and prop valve. Ive used them on about 4-5 builds and never had a problem and have gotten EXCELLENT customer service.

http://www.ebaystores.com/Pirate-Jac...oration?_rdc=1

Thanks Willie. From what I have read, 3/16" is acceptable for the entire disc/disc application, and standard in a lot of applications. I did find Fed Hill US and will likely purchase from them as they have the fittings and the brake line. I will take a look at the MC you listed. I have also found the below flaring tool for 3/16" lines only that has good reviews.

3/16" Double Flare tool

Willie Makeit 11-25-2019 04:25 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
I used a similar but smaller tool with excellent results.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

KMC3420 11-25-2019 05:22 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Makeit (Post 8632893)
I used a similar but smaller tool with excellent results.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks, I will take a look at that also, much better price.

wixthedog 11-26-2019 04:08 AM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Makeit (Post 8632797)
I used NiCop lines and used standard cad-plated steel fittings, 3/16" tubing both front and rear. Look up Pirate Jack on ebay for your master cylinder and prop valve. Ive used them on about 4-5 builds and never had a problem and have gotten EXCELLENT customer service.

http://www.ebaystores.com/Pirate-Jac...oration?_rdc=1

I've heard nothing but horror stories about aftermarket combination valves but I could not find a good NOS one for the life of me when mine gave up during my brake rebuild. I went with Pirate Jack and not only was the fit and ports an exact match, it worked well.

KMC3420 11-27-2019 09:19 PM

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I moved forward with purchasing from Fedhill because the more I read I kept finding examples of the cheaper, thinner walled tubing. FedHill has the best tubing I could find.

Info: FedhillUSA

KMC3420 01-15-2020 01:19 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
I wanted to update this because I found a more cost effective option for the NiCopp brake lines as I ended up needing more. I found S.U.R.&R brake line and it is made in the USA and comes in quite a bit cheaper than the Fedhill lines. It is thick walled just like the Fedhill lines as well. Nothing against Fedhill, the brake lines bent/flared easy enough, but while needing more line I found a better price on S.U.R&R on Amazon S.U.R&R

slammed57 01-15-2020 03:10 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
thanks for the info.... iam goin to go with nicopp as well

lux 01-15-2020 04:23 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KMC3420 (Post 8660263)
I wanted to update this because I found a more cost effective option for the NiCopp brake lines as I ended up needing more. I found S.U.R.&R brake line and it is made in the USA and comes in quite a bit cheaper than the Fedhill lines. It is thick walled just like the Fedhill lines as well. Nothing against Fedhill, the brake lines bent/flared easy enough, but while needing more line I found a better price on S.U.R&R on Amazon S.U.R&R

Can you post a link to the fittings you used?
Thanks

KMC3420 01-15-2020 06:07 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
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Originally Posted by lux (Post 8660344)
Can you post a link to the fittings you used?
Thanks

I used these fittings Inline Tube Fittings. You can get the 3/16" kits on ebay as well through inline tube: Inline Tube eBay

Random Inline tube fittings

KMC3420 01-15-2020 06:12 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
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Originally Posted by slammed57 (Post 8660316)
thanks for the info.... iam goin to go with nicopp as well

With the NiCopp lines I actually enjoyed bending/flaring them just a little bit. I think you will as well.

lux 01-15-2020 07:21 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
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Originally Posted by KMC3420 (Post 8660409)
With the NiCopp lines I actually enjoyed bending/flaring them just a little bit. I think you will as well.

I'm told that bending is easy with NiCopp. Did you use a bending tool or just do it by hand?

KMC3420 01-15-2020 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lux (Post 8660436)
I'm told that bending is easy with NiCopp. Did you use a bending tool or just do it by hand?

Bending by hand would be easy, however I used a tool to bend for a cleaner look. I also used an angle finder, and cut a 4” piece, marked where my tool would line up, and used that piece to mark my finished line.
Brake line bending tip

lux 01-15-2020 08:56 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KMC3420 (Post 8660467)
Bending by hand would be easy, however I used a tool to bend for a cleaner look. I also used an angle finder, and cut a 4” piece, marked where my tool would line up, and used that piece to mark my finished line.
Brake line bending tip


Thanks for the link. That make a lot of simple sense.

KMC3420 01-15-2020 09:01 PM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
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Originally Posted by lux (Post 8660483)
Thanks for the link. That make a lot of simple sense.

Agreed, I didn’t come up with it but it truly does help when you are following a straight line such as an axle or crossmember.

88Stanger 01-16-2020 10:13 AM

Re: NiCopp brake lines
 
Thank you guys for posting this. I am getting ready to start a 1966 C10 build from ground up and this is great info.


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