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Adding Posi '68 C20
Truck now has open rear, want to add Posi and different rear gear.
calculating current rear gear, one turn of the tire jacked up = 2 1/4 turn of the shaft.. 2.73 gears?? I'm thinking going to 3.55 rear gear, Go with Eaton Posi? |
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Pictures of your axle? If you have a dana you are in good shape? If it's a factory big block truck it just might. And a 3.54:1 was available. Not a 2.73:1
edit, the power team chart says it should be already be a 3.54:1. That was all that was available with a C20 396 powered truck |
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Yes, Its a Dana 60. 4 speed NP435.
The trucks top speed wants to be about 55mph, anything above that it starts taching up pretty high so I'm sure its not good for fuel mileage. Would the original rear gears be on the SPID? build sheet? |
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Won't be on your SPID. Gear ratio for a 68 big block was 3.54 in a Dana 60 (there were no optional ratios for a 396 C20 in 68 as Bigdav mentioned)
Just a note - HB8 NoSPIN was not an option for 396, only G87 POWR-LOK. Highly unlikely anyone would (or could) swap in 2.73 ratio. What are your highway rpms at a 55, if you know? The fact that you're topping out at 55 pretty much eliminates the 2.73 theory. Possible someone swapped in an aftermarket 4.10/4.57 r&p etc. 3.54 gears wouldn't have you at an uncomfortably high rpm at 55, depending on tire size. |
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I am running a late model 14 bolt but my 3.73 gears with 30 in tires is not bad at 70. Not running an overdrive so third gear is 1 to 1. Would probably like 3.5-somethings better though.
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I have 3:73 with no overdrive and 30" tires. My engine RPM's are about 2800 at 70.
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Without knowing just what the rpms are at 55 it may just be that it sounds like it's really spinning up there as compared to today's vehicles with overdrive? With tire size and road speed one of you guys could calculate the rpms with the stock gear ratio for him.
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Tire size is P265-75 R 16
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rpm for that tire size (~31.5 dia) at various speeds with a 3.54 would be:
2077 @ 55 mph 2454 @ 65 mph 2832 @ 75 mph If you happen to know your rpm at any given speed, can tell you what your rear ratio actually is. |
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4.56 ratio, maybe somebody swapped those in at some point? Steve weim55 Colorado |
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Yes, One tire, the right rear was on the ground and I turned the left.
I will check the tach to see what it reads at 55 and 60-65. But the revs seem quite high above 60-65. |
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As been said, lots available for the DANA 60. Not cheap though. We Rebuilt everything. Used Yukon gears and carrier. Torque King was a good source for us. https://torqueking.com/?cmp_id=17657...SAAEgJwhfD_BwE
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Nice job, What gearing did you go with? Engine and Trans?
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It sounds like you don't have 3.54s. It must not be the original rear. 3.54s are the best you'll find, so look for that rear or ring & pinion. If you learn you still have original rear, then your already at your best ratio
There is a great variety of posi-tractions available for the Dana60 |
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there is a shop near me (rear end specialties) in San Jose That does good work. |
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Checked the Tach readings..
1st- Granny gear. 2nd- 2700 at 25 mph 3rd- 2400 at 40mph 4th-2500 at 55 mph 4th -2700 at 60mph 4th -3300 at 70mph |
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a 4.56 would be ~3400 at 70 mph in your scenario, so that's what I'm gonna guess it has. (4.10 would be just under 3100 rpm at 70 mph)
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Thanks, I think everyone confirmed its geared a little low..
Now to get it changed out.. |
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My '67 3/4 T, 292, 3 spd, Dana had 4.56 gears. I found a late '70s Dodge 3/4 in the wrecking yard with a Dodge Dana with 3.54 gears and posi carrier.
The gears and posi carrier was $50. New bearings, seals, gaskets and shims was $120. Axle splines turned out to be the same (lucky). Dodge pinion splines are different and Dodge used smaller U-joints than GM. A rear end shop had a new, bigger yoke for $20. Prices are from 2005. My 6 cyl truck runs easily at 75 mph with the 3.54 gears and 285/70R17 tires. |
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