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C-cab23 07-05-2022 07:30 PM

Frame question
 
This is gonna be a different question from the normal....has anyone lengthened a frame ? The reason I ask is because I have a 68 GMC 1 ton longbed stepside and I want to get rid of all the 1 ton suspension so I can get a better ride. The 1 ton has a 9 foot bed and I want to keep it that way. So I was thinking about trying to get half ton frame and lengthening it. Any thoughts ?????
Thanks

purple gas 07-05-2022 09:02 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Can you not put lighter suspension parts ( 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton front crossmemeber & springs and smaller leaves on the back )on to get a better ride?

C-cab23 07-06-2022 12:23 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by purple gas (Post 9098096)
Can you not put lighter suspension parts ( 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton front crossmemeber & springs and smaller leaves on the back )on to get a better ride?

I am not sure but I don't think the lighter duty parts will fit. I think the 1 ton frame is taller.

kwmech 07-06-2022 12:36 PM

Re: Frame question
 
The 1 ton frames are entirely different in the rear. Leaf spring spacing is different along with the width of the frame, and you are correct the frame beams are taller. What wheel base is the 1 ton?

C-cab23 07-06-2022 01:12 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwmech (Post 9098275)
The 1 ton frames are entirely different in the rear. Leaf spring spacing is different along with the width of the frame, and you are correct the frame beams are taller. What wheel base is the 1 ton?

It has a 133" wheelbase

kwmech 07-06-2022 02:14 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Lot of work to lengthen a frame only 6''. You'll then have to drill different mounting holes in the bed to the frame as they will be in a different place (width wise)

kwmech 07-06-2022 02:17 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C-cab23 (Post 9098268)
I am not sure but I don't think the lighter duty parts will fit. I think the 1 ton frame is taller.

You can accomplish this, being as it would be easier than stretching a different frame and swapping everything over. OR just find a different truck altogether and sell this one to somebody that needs an older 1 ton

cwcarpenter98 07-06-2022 02:51 PM

Re: Frame question
 
On the front end, you can swap on 1/2 ton upper and lower control arms.
Maybe look into seeing if you can make 1/2 ton leaf springs from a GMC work with the 1 ton hangers? Might need to make some spacers if the spring eyes are smaller than the hangers. Just trying to think outside the box of a full frame swap

jumpsoffrock 07-06-2022 07:44 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwmech (Post 9098313)
OR just find a different truck altogether and sell this one to somebody that needs an older 1 ton

I also say you just find another truck. I got very lucky and found my 1-ton pickup after only a month, but had to trailer it 400 miles home. My point is some people like these HD pickups.
These 1 ton pickups supposedly aren't rare, but I don't exactly see them growing on trees; save this truck for someone who needs it or save it for another time for yourself.

......then again who's to say the next person to own the truck won't just lay down the cash and promptly say, "yep I'm gonna cut 'er up and make 'er one of them shortened slammed restomods...."

:smoke:

CarlsLQ9SS 07-06-2022 07:50 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Would a longhorn frame work?

jumpsoffrock 07-06-2022 08:11 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlsLQ9SS (Post 9098397)
Would a longhorn frame work?

Correct me if I'm wrong but that should be what the OP is working with already: All longhorns came with 133" 1-ton frames.

kwmech 07-06-2022 10:15 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jumpsoffrock (Post 9098401)
Correct me if I'm wrong but that should be what the OP is working with already: All longhorns came with 133" 1-ton frames.

Yup,........they sure did

kwmech 07-06-2022 10:18 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jumpsoffrock (Post 9098389)
I also say you just find another truck. I got very lucky and found my 1-ton pickup after only a month, but had to trailer it 400 miles home. My point is some people like these HD pickups.
These 1 ton pickups supposedly aren't rare, but I don't exactly see them growing on trees; save this truck for someone who needs it or save it for another time for yourself.

......then again who's to say the next person to own the truck won't just lay down the cash and promptly say, "yep I'm gonna cut 'er up and make 'er one of them shortened slammed restomods...."

:smoke:

Why the attitude?? I know where there is a 1/2 ton truck stripped out for about 200.00

jumpsoffrock 07-06-2022 11:09 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwmech (Post 9098448)
Why the attitude?? I know where there is a 1/2 ton truck stripped out for about 200.00

We're starting to rant off topic here, but most of that statement was half hearted sarcasm. In reality there are still plenty of these trucks left for everyone, plenty left to be plundered if so desired. :chevy:

kwmech 07-07-2022 01:24 AM

Re: Frame question
 
No, you started the rant. I was giving him an option then you stepped in with nothing. Take it somewhere else.

Adding to a frame is A LOT of work if done the right way. I've done it several times.

special-K 07-07-2022 06:24 AM

Re: Frame question
 
Ok, we're all good now, right?

What I see here is only the need to switch out springs. I think the rear leaf springs are the bulk of the issue. You can try removing some or build a new pack to lighter specs

On another note. what make truck is your '23 C-cab?

kwmech 07-07-2022 12:03 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K (Post 9098504)
Ok, we're all good now, right?

What I see here is only the need to switch out springs. I think the rear leaf springs are the bulk of the issue. You can try removing some or build a new pack to lighter specs

On another note. what make truck is your '23 C-cab?

He would have to lighten the 1 ton springs as they are 2-1/2'' wide as opposed to the 1/2 and 3/4t springs are 2-1/4''. Front springs may remain if the truck is toting a big block. He would have to get a little creative with the rear pack removing leafs while keeping height where he wants it, but it could be done

C-cab23 07-07-2022 01:34 PM

Re: Frame question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K (Post 9098504)
Ok, we're all good now, right?

What I see here is only the need to switch out springs. I think the rear leaf springs are the bulk of the issue. You can try removing some or build a new pack to lighter specs

On another note. what make truck is your '23 C-cab?

The c-cab is a ford


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