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Kalums 02-27-2025 07:40 PM

Transmission issues
 
Ok here is a random one and hopefully someone has experienced this or understands... Ok finally dropped my "K" block 350 in my 1971 GMC and.... For some reason my flexplate and torque converter are about 3/4-1" apart... I can scoot the torque converter forward towards the engine but then it isn't connected to the pump... Also when I install my starter, the flexplate is ON the opening for the bendix. Not like I need shims, but like up against the opening, again not up against the teeth(top or bottom of the starter) but against the flat edge(side) of the flexplate teeth. The flexplate is far enough away from the torque converter it makes me VERY wary of putting shims in. Local trans shop said 1) I may have the wrong flexplate (even though it is a pioneer 168T with an external "batwing" weight, "for one piece seals") or 2) I may need the LS "crank spacer".
BTW it is a TH350 with an NP205

Have any of you guys had similar experiences? Thoughts? Ideas? I want to get this sucker up running again... But man this one is too much for my limited knowledge.

Steeveedee 02-27-2025 08:27 PM

Re: Transmission issues
 
Check that the converter spins freely. You might have stacked it when installing the engine. Ask me how I know this.

Kalums 02-27-2025 08:32 PM

Re: Transmission issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 9371912)
Check that the converter spins freely. You might have stacked it when installing the engine. Ask me how I know this.

It does spin freely, but it I have it in (like it is supposed to be, by my understanding) I can hear the fluid pumping /moving inside. If I pull it "out" to hook it up to the flexplate it spins easier and I don't hear the fluid movement.

Steeveedee 02-28-2025 11:49 AM

Re: Transmission issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalums (Post 9371914)
It does spin freely, but it I have it in (like it is supposed to be, by my understanding) I can hear the fluid pumping /moving inside. If I pull it "out" to hook it up to the flexplate it spins easier and I don't hear the fluid movement.

That's above my paygrade. Maybe someone with more transmission experience will chime in.

70STOVEBOLT 02-28-2025 12:06 PM

Re: Transmission issues
 
When you say "K" block, are you referring to the engine plant code or 4-wheel drive? If the engine is a 1970's vintage engine, you have the wrong flex plate, as those engines use a 2-piece rear main seal.

70STOVEBOLT 02-28-2025 12:24 PM

Re: Transmission issues
 
Disregard, I see in your engine swap-arino thread that it is a 1993 engine.

Kalums 03-01-2025 02:20 AM

Re: Transmission issues
 
So... New development, took all the bolts out again..... And low and behold there was a kick down cable squashed between the bell housing and block, right in front of the transmission dipstick. *facepalm* So apparently even if your 4 bottom bolts are "flat" they many not actually be flush. Pulled that out (need a new one), bolted all 6 bolts up this time and bam, gap is down to 0.512 of an inch... 1/2" is way more "shimable" than double that space. The local transmission shop I called the other day is probably going to get this TH350 soon any way, it seems to now be leaking from every possible orifice, apparently didn't like being bonked around... *sighs*... Leaking from the Pan seal near the front passenger side, from the dipstick mating "hole", definitely from the rear seal/output shaft, the governer... there is even a smidge of pink film behind the torque converter... Thank you to everyone who contributed.

Follow up for any one later on who comes across this problem : I don't know about anyone else's situation when it comes to this, but I measured it out with my micrometer =0.512...went through the whole math scenario and to have the correct amount of "play"(for expansion of the torque converter/metal) inside the bell housing (1/8-3/16ths) I ended up only needing a 1/4" shim. You have to factor in the thickness of the flexplate and "flange" on the torque converter to get your correct shim thickness. Good luck to you


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