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ok, i got one out by cutting with a sawzall, new blade is toast now...still cant drive the ends out tho..finally i have taken the trailing arms off to roll the rear out and flip it over, but the brake line that comes from the front to the rubber line to the distribution block is rounded off really bad so i havent messed with it today, getting frustrated a little so i am gonna wait a few days before i go back out there...i am gonna try the rivet idea and see if i can get that last one out...thanks for all the ideas and help guys
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