with my 4-6 drop I caught a rock on a dirt road going about 15mph It tore the flange right off the header. I'm running shorty hedmen elites now. 4" more ground clearance. Worst part of learning this the hard way was the 3" stainless and flowmasters I had to throw away because of speedbumps and dips in the highway; scraps, rips, and crushed pipes everwhere.