[knightowl73]

ok just verified, the van was a 73 van and even autozone and orielly websites list them as being 4.75 pattern. for $33 a piece id try them if i was going that route for some wheels i had already or somethn. would be so much easier and safer than adapters and even cheaper than redrilling them... as far as the back i guess the b-body 77-90 rear would work for ease of things. just a bit of weldng the perches on. i bet itll work....and dangit got me really thinking now. I can get ahold of plenty more wheel sets with the car pattern.