like mentioned earlier. MAYBE 1 out of 100 run decent. the turbo/nitrous hondas need a fair amount to run 13's much less 12's. the higher end stuff like subies or mitsu's do it with minor mods but cost alot to start. the srt4's seem to be the most common that run hard. i like puttin on my bibs and walking around the stagin lanes talkin to em. eventually somebody will wanna show my old roadmaster wagon how fast they are