[69cummins]

Ok guys it has been about six months since I tried to install these so I went and pulled them out and looked them over very carefully and here is the deal. The right one has never even been unwrapped it is exactly new. The left one has been unwrapped and I tried to install it. I put one bolt in the center hole of the header and it was only finger tight. If you look very closely you can see scuffs where the head of the bolt rubbed the ceramic coating but it was never even tightened up. there is also 3 different places on the header that is very slightly scuffed. I wouldn't call them scratches but you can see where the header touched the frame while I was trying to install it. I am being very picky here you have to really look at the header to find what I am talking about. The gaskets and collectors are still in the original sealed plastic and never been opened. I would say that most people opening up these headers would think that they had never been opened, everything is repackaged and wrapped exactly like it originally was. If you are buying these to install on your own pickup I guarantee you will be completely happy, but if a vendor is trying to buy these and then resell them as brand new well......