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Originally Posted by Wasted Income
Perhaps PB does now have a decent solution, but at the time I ordered my stuff ( about a year and a half ago) they had ZERO blazer specific parts. I had to rework C-10 parts to work for me, build my own c-notch, etc.
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Wasted Income.... you are correct. At the time we didn't make a rear kit that would do what you wanted it to do on the 4WD blazer. We discussed this and made some recommendations for the parts that we did have that would be compatible... you pulled the trigger and we got you what we could, and for the most part I thought it worked out well for you.
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Originally Posted by skorpioskorpio
Well, when I ordered my stuff from Porterbuilt I was told orders were running 7 weeks, took 8 months and a lot of phone calls, for the most part messages were never answered, required luck of the draw. I ordered the whole deal, mild drop front, outboard coilover rear, all new tubular crossovers, with the intention that Delmo who is their guy in LA would do the setup. By the time I actually got everything, he was too backloged to do it, and eventually told me he didn't know if or when he would ever be able to do it.
As I said rear suspension was totally wrong, and when I look at what they did send me, I'm not sure they even sent that complete enough to work even if it was a 2wd frame. Anyway, so they resent the rear, and the bolt in notch is really too wide for the frame rail which makes me wonder if the overall width will be correct. Usable upper shock mounts never showed up (probably a couple dozen calls on that alone, always to be sent out "this week"). Core support cross member doesn't fit (frame horns are a half inch taller than the crossmember)and seems randomly drilled. As stated sent cross member for inboard shocks and trailing arms for outboard shocks. Front cross member is well made but does not take into account the flaring of the frame in that area and requires it to sandwich the frame between pieces that from the factory aren't flat. Trans mount is pretty light duty compared to everything else.
So now it's sitting on a fabrication table, there is going to be lots of rework needed. At least 2 of the tubular cross members will need to be refabed. I reduced the frame to rails assuming this would all just go together, which it's now looking to not be the case.
Now had I had it to do over again, I would have got a Scotts front which is pretty much a bolt on assembly, OR just bought one of No Limits complete ready to go frames, OR treat the frone and back seperately and commited to fabbing more or mix and matching parts from the 3 vendors. The prize of the Porterbuilt stuff is the trailing arm cross member and the trailing arms them selves. What this is going to cost me in the end I could have bought a full frame for the same amount from No Limit or a couple other vendors. Live and learn.
Oh and to top it off, no directions of any sort, and the little reference there was, their forum, has been taken down. So it's now kind of a random collection of parts that I hope turns into a chassis.
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Ken-
In the end, you are the customer... and you obviously aren't 100% satisfied. So we need to address this.
However, the part that surprises me most is the fact that this is the
FIRST time we have heard about you not being satisfied. We get a PM from a forum member (not a phone call or an email from YOU) asking if I have seen this thread. I make my way over here and am actually pretty surprised at what I am reading.
The reason I am so surprised is because we were perfectly clear up front, in our multiple conversations that we did not make a "kit" for a Stage 2 rear conversion on a 4WD blazer frame. We discussed working together with YOU and your builder to send what we had and fine tune and dial it in as necessary.
Yes, there was a delay on your parts, and yes, we did send some of the incorrect parts out for the rear (notches). However it was rectified, and each time we spoke or emailed it was never a "rush" as you were waiting to get in over at your builder. As mentioned, this is the FIRST time we are hearing about your level of dissatisfaction.
In regards to the front kit, it is not a 100% bolt-in, as the 4WD blazer frame does not have the same mounting hole provisions for the 2WD cross-member. There is the need to measure and drill. However it does fit... Not overly complicated, but all this was discussed. We even discussed how you wanted your wheels to sit (in regards to trac width). And our solution was to send out a standard length set of arms for a baseline and then we would build you what you needed to get it just how you wanted it.
I would agree that your build is very unique and very specific. In our conversations you even made the comment several times that none of the "other companies" would even talk to you about it. We discussed what we had available and what we were willing to do to help complete it and dial it in while working together. You signed off and pulled the trigger.
You were NEVER told it was a direct fit kit, but were told that we would work with you and your builder to dial it in. We spent hours and hours discussing things on the phone... over and over and over. And now here we are, reading about you *****ing about us on line when it is completely off base.
If we were any other company we would tell you to take a hike. However, we don't treat our customers that way. The original offer still stands to work together and dial in some of the components to help you reach your end goal.
Do me a favor and give us a call so we can help provide you with everything we originally discussed.
Nate