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Marv D · 04-02-2015, 09:48 PM

Lots of guys run the yellow because it will go to 4-5v and recharge over and over.... Issue I have with the deep cycle / no alternator is they are HARD on electronics, and I would rather have things like trans brake, throttle stops, two-steps bla bla bla NOT work at all,,, rather than push through the beams because there was just barely enough juice to activate the transbrake / line-lock,, not to HOLD it on because of a low voltage deal. Besides,, one of the hardest things on a 12v motor is to try to run it at 5 or 6 volts!. Waterpumps, fans, etc,, short lived on a repeated diet of low voltage.

The Oddesy and the MSD batteries are really taking hold in the upper end machines. I'm just not ready to throw the towel in on the Red-top until I see some problem.

That said,,
I DID have a HUGE issue with a Powermaster 150amp billet alternator in my El Camino (part of Billet Specialties Billet serpentine package) I toasted it 3 times and John Babcock was a stand up guy and rebuilt it 2 times,, the third he said throw that damn Optima battery away or your on your own!

If you look Optima site it has a specific / propitiatory charger for their batteries,, it's a SLOW trickle charge. As I understand it ANY Absorbed Glass Matt battery will NOT take a high amp charge,, it simply can not take in as much as a high amp alternator can throw at it. You have this catch 22 deal where the voltage regulator senses that the battery is low,,, so it cranks up the amps,, but the AGM battery can't absorb what it's throwing at it, so the regulator says,, hmmm not enough??, lets cranks it up more....until it burns the internal regulator up,, or worse, the windings.

I mention that,, because if you have anything more than a 65amp alternator and spinning the motor to 6000 or 7000,,, you may see some of those issues,, or not! Who knows just sharing my 2¢
(so now it's only worth 1 or 2 peso's

)

For alternator I had a buddy recommend these CVR Alternators way back, I put one on the Nova I spin to 7800,, in the 50 amp version and has worked flawlessly with a RedTop (the SAME redtop) for about 9 years. Put the same setup in the truck when I did this 434 deal,, no problems and no issues. Their about $40 cheaper if you have a NHRA comp number and ProShop account with slummit. VERY deep groove, ballbearing, windings tolerant of 8000rpm.

04-02-2015, 09:48 PM	#9
Marv D Registered Truck Offender Join Date: May 2008 Location: hells training ground (aka Ariz) Posts: 3,118	Re: Bracket car battery suggestions Lots of guys run the yellow because it will go to 4-5v and recharge over and over.... Issue I have with the deep cycle / no alternator is they are HARD on electronics, and I would rather have things like trans brake, throttle stops, two-steps bla bla bla NOT work at all,,, rather than push through the beams because there was just barely enough juice to activate the transbrake / line-lock,, not to HOLD it on because of a low voltage deal. Besides,, one of the hardest things on a 12v motor is to try to run it at 5 or 6 volts!. Waterpumps, fans, etc,, short lived on a repeated diet of low voltage. The Oddesy and the MSD batteries are really taking hold in the upper end machines. I'm just not ready to throw the towel in on the Red-top until I see some problem. That said,, I DID have a HUGE issue with a Powermaster 150amp billet alternator in my El Camino (part of Billet Specialties Billet serpentine package) I toasted it 3 times and John Babcock was a stand up guy and rebuilt it 2 times,, the third he said throw that damn Optima battery away or your on your own! If you look Optima site it has a specific / propitiatory charger for their batteries,, it's a SLOW trickle charge. As I understand it ANY Absorbed Glass Matt battery will NOT take a high amp charge,, it simply can not take in as much as a high amp alternator can throw at it. You have this catch 22 deal where the voltage regulator senses that the battery is low,,, so it cranks up the amps,, but the AGM battery can't absorb what it's throwing at it, so the regulator says,, hmmm not enough??, lets cranks it up more....until it burns the internal regulator up,, or worse, the windings. I mention that,, because if you have anything more than a 65amp alternator and spinning the motor to 6000 or 7000,,, you may see some of those issues,, or not! Who knows just sharing my 2¢ (so now it's only worth 1 or 2 peso's ) For alternator I had a buddy recommend these CVR Alternators way back, I put one on the Nova I spin to 7800,, in the 50 amp version and has worked flawlessly with a RedTop (the SAME redtop) for about 9 years. Put the same setup in the truck when I did this 434 deal,, no problems and no issues. Their about $40 cheaper if you have a NHRA comp number and ProShop account with slummit. VERY deep groove, ballbearing, windings tolerant of 8000rpm. __________________ Still playin with trucks, even at my age! When you're dead, it's only a problem for the people around you, because you don't know you're dead. .....It's kinda the same when your STUPID. I just did my taxes and reviewed my SS statement. Thanks to the current administration it looks like I will only have to work till noon on the day of my funeral. Last edited by Marv D; 04-02-2015 at 10:01 PM.