[mike16]

once again I would like to appologise to JDW for using his response as an example, Sorry there. no reflection on you bro. i just clicked on that "quote" key

I'd like to bow out of this but before I do I'd like to hand off a piece of advice my boss gave me by way of demonstration 30 years ago.

bobbloom,I dont know you personaly, socially emotionaly or psychologicaly. we have never talked and or communicated in any way other than through this thread.

I believe you suffer from a form of buyers remorse based on the fact that you have limied mechanical skill and may resent a little, the fact that others do.you pay them 100 dollars to do a job but knowing little your self you diminish thier work at 100 dollars an hour by simply criticing it.

Before spending 100 dollars did you shop around, or at least go on you tube to see what and how its done.

Now for the sage piece of advice that has done me good these last 30 plus years.

my 2nd week on the job asa mechanic Somebody walks through the door and wants an oil change and tune up on a 4 year old 78 pinto. His daughters car, her second year at the university and other than a few boyfriends under the hood, nothing has ever been don to the car. We do a tune up and an oil change. he comes back on monday and says the car runs badly and wants it to run as good as it did when he brough it in. We pop the hood and notice right away somebody's been foolin around under the hood. the owner demands we correct our mistakes and he aint payin a penny more.

the tune up and oil change cost about 80 bucks and the mechanics wages came out of that, we spent in labor and additional parts , another 40 plus dollars.we showed him what we did,we pointed out that it was not any part of the tune up or oil chnge and we showed him labor and new parts. we allowd him the option of paying for the parts and we eat the labor. He refused

two months later he comes by and wants more work done on the car. My boss declines and sends him to one of our competators.I told the boss I thouht he was crazy.

My boss called it buyers remorse back then and said these types of customers will drive you crazy.If there is any way you can determine who they are before you begine to work on thier car, then send them, instead to your compitition. and not the competion that is established and been around for a long tine. send them to the newbies who are undercutting everyone else trying to make a living.

never send a customer like the one in my story to an other established shop. The other shop owner will almost emediatly recognise what you are doing and pay it back, In fact my boss would send them to another shop and call ahead to warn that shops owner, an old friend, and they would have a good laugh on the phone untill they customer showed up.that owner would play with the customer and send them on to a third and occasionally a forth shop befor unleashing the customer on some newbie upstart trying to hack in and undercut every one else trying to make a living,

I dont agree or disagree with you bobbloom. I'm sharing my experience from the perspective of the mechanic.

and the advice I learned from this experience has stood me well for over 30 years.

take a gooooood look how GM routed those wires on mid fifty's chevy cars, corvettes and then take a look at the assembly manual for your truck and see how the wires are routed, not so much how they are routed but what is involved in routing them " under the manifolds" like you so casually say. Not so easy to do correctly according to the factory at 100 bucks. and that presumming you do have the right wires.

I truly hope you find contentment in this hobby. Chevy trucks are the easiest most forgiving things to work on.

Stay away from Jaguars, british motorcycles (anything british!!!), BMW motorcycles,Corvettes (ncrs resto standards) and anything to do with the peace process in the middle east.