Thanks guys didn't expect this many responses so fast
Do you think the fact that I have a manual trans will make it more difficult to remove?
Ill of course try it without lifting the engine first.
If I end up doing the timing chain because of my timing issues I will be replacing all those gaskets at once.
In my Chilton (

) manual it says:
To jack the vehicle up high enough for the oil pan to stand vertical because you may need that room to get it out.
You may (on some vehicles) have to lift the engine and to lift from the trans. If you need additional room then remove the motor mount through bolts.
When removing the pan do I need to worry about the oil pump or the baffle?
Thanks again