Well, I finally got them off after about 5 hours on both sides. they were stuck to the frame and mounting brackets as well. I did have to move the radiator and my son came up with a great way to move it with out draining it. We just unbolted the whole thing and just moved it forward to get access of the core mount bolt. I thought I would have to drain the radiator and was not looking forward to this. The fan blade and belts have to come off but no big thing. I'm glad it's done with. I have never had to deal with this kind of problem before. Now the bottom and upper radiator hoses will kink but it will not bother them.