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Originally Posted by special-K

Bad time for yellow jackets. I have paw paws all over the ground I can't get near because of those pests.

There are greenhouses up the road from me made the same way as your shelter. They have stood through twenty or more winters.

I'm digging out my cellar instead of tying steel to pour concrete tomorrow. Still need to pick up the other half of the Sakrete I'll need, too. This is on my 'barn move' project, the stem wall. I want to get that poured so it can cure a while before going further. While I wait is when I should be digging the cellar, but there is plenty to do and I'm going for it while I'm motivated

I dug out my basement when I lived in the house I rent out now. Was built in the 50s and was one of the first in the development. As they poured foundations they would clean out the cement trucks and use it for the floor. Needless to say after 50 years it turned to dust . Found the footings were 2 and a half feet below the floor so in order to get more ceiling (was a little over 7 ft ) height I dug down 18 inches so I could do 2 inch foam and a 4 inch pour . Was easy digging as it was back filled with sand . Hard part carrying out about 20yards of sand and broken up slab in 5 gallon buckets up the stairs and out to the back yard.