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Ignition lock assembly
I will start another thread to maybe get the lock cylinder figured out, so I won't pollute the Making Keys For The ’60 -‘66 Chevy Trucks thread too much.
Here's the story. LockDoc made keys for me so I could release the cylinder from the ignition lock. I've got it apart and cleaned up. I can't figure out how to get it back together. This is on my 1963 C10. While trying to figure it out I tried to find out the names of the parts by searching the www but I may not be good at that. So here I'm giving the parts these names. If there's better or more official names I would like to know, and I'll edit my post. 1 cylinder keeper slot 2 spring cover 3 latch 4 pin release hole 5 pin block 6 cylinder keeper 7 latch up positions Pictures Last edited by dmjlambert; 08-16-2024 at 10:15 PM. |
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Re: Ignition lock assembly
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Re: Ignition lock assembly
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Re: Ignition lock assembly
My observations
I think I'm showing the incorrect orientation of the pin in the first 2 pictures, because when inserted this way the pin pushes down but it sticks in the down position. In pictures 3 and 4 I inserted it the other way and it presses in and springs up. I don't know for fact the orientation because after I removed the cylinder I touched the pin and it popped out and onto the floor of the truck. Cylinder keeper 6 appears to keep the cylinder in the assembly in all normal positions of the key. Push the pin through the pin release hole 4 in order for the pin to clear the pin block 5 to move the cylinder keeper 6 into the cylinder keeper slot 1 and that allows the cylinder to release and come out of the assembly. I have noticed the latch 3 is depressed when the key is inserted, and the latch sticks out when the key is removed. The key can only be removed if the latch is not being held in. So areas in the assembly that are the latch up positions 7 are places where the latch is free to move up and therefore those should be where the key can be removed. The spring cover 2 does not move, it is swaged into place. So here is my problem. When I put the cylinder back in the assembly and it snaps into place, I can depress the pin through the hole and turn the key to the right and it moves through the off, on, and start positions. In the start position the key will tend to spring back to the on position. All good so far. If I turn the key to the left past the off position, it sticks in that position forever, unless I depress the pin through the hole again. Then I can turn the key to the right back to the off position. I can remove the key in any position. The whole assembly worn out, or just the cylinder, or something else wrong? Last edited by dmjlambert; 08-16-2024 at 11:41 PM. |
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Re: Ignition lock assembly
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This ignition lock cylinder is the standard GM side bar lock cylinder used from 1935 - 1966 ( to '67 for trucks) The part you have listed as #3 is called the "side bar". That is what keeps the cylinder from turning when the key is removed. When the correct key is inserted the side bar retracts into the lock body and the cylinder can then be turned. The side bar lock cylinders use flat tumblers or wafers instead of pins. The retaining pin goes in small end first. It is not supposed to come out. It was originally staked in from the factory. Arrow in picture points to the staking mark. That is why you are having trouble with it sticking. When it is turned to the off position the pin is pushing up into the release hole because it is no longer staked into place in the lower hole. I have fixed them by drilling a hole in the side of the switch housing on the opposite side of the staking mark and using a tool with the same end configuration as the tumbler cover staking tool, only longer, and re-staking it. You have to hold the pin down while staking it and again it is easier with two people. Do not over stake it or the pin will not move. It shouldn't take much to make it stay in place. .
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