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Old Yesterday, 05:16 PM   #1
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Advice on crossmembers, column, shifter for new engine and trans swap

I was not really planning on going this route as I have loved the coolness factor of running my 350 basic crate engine with the 3 on the tree. It has been a blast, but an opportunity came up I felt I couldn't resist. A complete 383 roller cam BluePrint Engines with a full Holley front runner and all the accessories, MSD distributor, PowerMaster starter radiator and electric fans. I know what was invested in the combo and with 500 miles on it, I got it for half of what was invested in it.

I'll need headers, trans crossmember, probably change the trailing arm crossmember, new column and a decision of going with a sniper or just running a Holley carb since that is what it came with. This truck is a factory V8 with 3OTT so I understand I will need to make some changes. Initial thought is to go with a Gearstar automatic trans.

This was not a thought out purchase, just a stupid good deal that I could not pass up. It was going in this winter to finish the rust repair on the cab and new main wiring harness so this might be a bit more involved. I have already been reading up on everything, but new perspectives and advice on what you used and did or didn't work will be appreciated. Guess the open 12 bolt with 3.08 gears is going to need some upgrades too.
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Re: Advice on crossmembers, column, shifter for new engine and trans swap

I am in the process of doing the same now. Due to medical stuff, I'll be retiring my 3 OTT sooner then I planned. I have a T350 transmission. I just got a automatic column. Digging up the trans crossmember, column linkages, make some lines and trans cooler to do the change out. I also have a peg leg 3.08 rear. It should do fine, unless you really want to stomp on that engine alot. Mine is just a cruiser niw so I know I am OK. Good luck with yours.
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Re: Advice on crossmembers, column, shifter for new engine and trans swap

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I am in the process of doing the same now. Due to medical stuff, I'll be retiring my 3 OTT sooner then I planned. I have a T350 transmission. I just got a automatic column. Digging up the trans crossmember, column linkages, make some lines and trans cooler to do the change out. I also have a peg leg 3.08 rear. It should do fine, unless you really want to stomp on that engine alot. Mine is just a cruiser niw so I know I am OK. Good luck with yours.
I absolutely loved the 3OTT and it was one of the main reasons I bought this truck. But I'll be honest sitting in traffic means I never drive it to work. I look forward to converting it, but I will definitely be going with an overdrive.
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Re: Advice on crossmembers, column, shifter for new engine and trans swap

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I was not really planning on going this route as I have loved the coolness factor of running my 350 basic crate engine with the 3 on the tree. It has been a blast, but an opportunity came up I felt I couldn't resist. A complete 383 roller cam BluePrint Engines with a full Holley front runner and all the accessories, MSD distributor, PowerMaster starter radiator and electric fans. I know what was invested in the combo and with 500 miles on it, I got it for half of what was invested in it.

I'll need headers, trans crossmember, probably change the trailing arm crossmember, new column and a decision of going with a sniper or just running a Holley carb since that is what it came with. This truck is a factory V8 with 3OTT so I understand I will need to make some changes. Initial thought is to go with a Gearstar automatic trans.

This was not a thought out purchase, just a stupid good deal that I could not pass up. It was going in this winter to finish the rust repair on the cab and new main wiring harness so this might be a bit more involved. I have already been reading up on everything, but new perspectives and advice on what you used and did or didn't work will be appreciated. Guess the open 12 bolt with 3.08 gears is going to need some upgrades too.
Good deal, Sounds like you found a good powerplant at a great price! My truck was a 3 on the tree as well. ive grown tired of it and made the swap to a tkx. Im planing on just punching out the roll pin on the shifter handle and running the same column. these trucks came with turbo 350s from the factory, i dont exactly know what transmissions youre going with id imagine you could modify a turbo 350 crossmember to work. considering the popularity of these trucks cant imagine a whole kit to put an auto wouldnt be hard to find. One thing i would be make sure to watch out for is your 3.08 rear end. its a good rear end to run and they hold up to abuse pretty well, and posi units can be bought for it. but i would be careful on the fact that it is a SERIES 3 carrier not a 4. factory 3.73 and higher rear ends were a series 4 carrier not a 3. distinct difference and a 4 cant go into a 3. You can buy a series 3 3.73 ring and pinion plus a posi unit and swap that into your rear end. my truck is a factory 3.08 posi unit, i am changing out the ring and pinion to 3.73's. Good luck!
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Re: Advice on crossmembers, column, shifter for new engine and trans swap

My '70 was an original 307 / 3.73 / 3 OTT truck. I swapped a 350 and a M21 and stayed with the bellhousing crossmember (no trans mount). Does your truck have that crossmember? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you go automatic, wouldn't you also need to remove that to be able to install a "regular" transmission crossmember? Dirty Dingo makes a nice crossmember with height adjustability (for fine tuning driveline angles) and exhaust clearance, for lowered trucks. Here's a link:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/17297035555...YaAh_AEALw_wcB
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Re: Advice on crossmembers, column, shifter for new engine and trans swap

My 68 had a 3 OTT. When I swapped in an LS engine I scrapped the stock column and went with an Ididit tilt column. Worked great. Also used an aftermarket steering wheel smaller in diameter than stock for a bit more elbow room.
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Re: Advice on crossmembers, column, shifter for new engine and trans swap

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Good deal, Sounds like you found a good powerplant at a great price! My truck was a 3 on the tree as well. ive grown tired of it and made the swap to a tkx. Im planing on just punching out the roll pin on the shifter handle and running the same column. these trucks came with turbo 350s from the factory, i dont exactly know what transmissions youre going with id imagine you could modify a turbo 350 crossmember to work. considering the popularity of these trucks cant imagine a whole kit to put an auto wouldnt be hard to find. One thing i would be make sure to watch out for is your 3.08 rear end. its a good rear end to run and they hold up to abuse pretty well, and posi units can be bought for it. but i would be careful on the fact that it is a SERIES 3 carrier not a 4. factory 3.73 and higher rear ends were a series 4 carrier not a 3. distinct difference and a 4 cant go into a 3. You can buy a series 3 3.73 ring and pinion plus a posi unit and swap that into your rear end. my truck is a factory 3.08 posi unit, i am changing out the ring and pinion to 3.73's. Good luck!
Yeah the jury has been out on mine, as it’s not the original rear end. Someone swapped in a leaf spring style 12-bolt (no ear on the top of the housing for the track bar) and I can’t find the stamping for more info on it. Since it worked I haven’t paid attention to guts when I changed the fluid other than to get the ring gear info.
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