city zoning guy got me yesterdya morning, parts gotta go that are outside laying - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

*Fast68Chevy* · 10-24-2002, 03:09 PM

i woke up yesterday morning to the damn city zoning officer inspecting properties out here, once again, he wants vehicles out of here and all these parts out of here, i habve no choice- as always dont when he shows up and says to quit this and have it alll removed in 7 or so days..

entire front third of a 72 rolling chassis with disc suspension,

'72 127" long fleet bed with needed dent removla on very lower sides, is long fleet, bad floor, clean sides

1968 3/4 ton large output yoke 2wd 465 tranny

86 caprice wagon, demo or whatever, no drivetrain,

64 C-10 nice tailgate minor dent no cancer,

64 C10 nice long bed, no rust holes, floor damn good for IL, dented lower rear pass side that can be straightened, is not horrible or anything, has good rad support from what i can see, and good grille and surround fender tip trim pieces, and doors a liltte rust through on rear bottom corner, easy fix for IL doors
heater parts, three tree column and orig. two spoke wheel and extra cap.

70 swb 2wd coil frame, needs blasted and painted, the usual.
front suspe on it cept for steering link and tie rods, rear arms are not.

im guessing 7 days as usual, this is third time this has happened, i m in middle of residential area and on three properties that had been commerical for many yeas and may still be on some of the lots. 15,000 ppl town, no fencing, just tarps. i know he would just agure to me that its not commercial out here, but i dont have fencing or anything just try to keep items covered as best as i cxan, have already stashed a coupel of engines so far, got two more to get stashed, i dont know what ill be able ot do with xomplete 74 C20 camper cheyenne truck, its my storage unit, and i have plans to convert it to pull behind bed camper/trailer, is not licensed yet though, so hmmmmmm
what can i do ? its got my 454 in it and not running right now, id be screwed on that one,.

its so much of a hassle trying to have vehicles that it really gets old, but i have to survive somehoe while am laid off for so long like have been for years now.,.,,.

if anyone knows anyone who can come get any of these items out of here fo sake of not just wasting them to shredder then lemme know we could work something out later or something,
i have little time to do this before the parts and unrunning vehicles got to be stashed out of sight somehow or something
number is 217 735 3230 and im in lincoln il, i can call if preferred,

i know several ppl on here have had the same thing happen to them, wish someone knew some way i could get past this soemhow. the zoning guy is a total prick and im not sure how to go about this cept to strip off as many goodies as i can ASAP and well thats about it,
where could i get copies of vehicle related zoning ordinances
i am only assumign that i can be in the clear by stashing items out of sight, at least thats kept him quiet in the past

thanks
for anything

imaindianoutlaw · 10-24-2002, 03:13 PM

What the hell this happens like every 6 months to you?

whateva · 10-24-2002, 03:57 PM

I am totally shocked that the zoning officer is a jerk! I don't know why he would be upset when he gets calls from your neighbors complaining that they are living next to a 'junk yard'!

Wyoming here you come!

Good Luck!

snow man · 10-24-2002, 04:56 PM

whats the bottom price on the dented up bed,could come pick it up late sat. snow man

Primered_69 · 10-24-2002, 06:10 PM

Hey man sorry this happened to you but sometimes the community we live in has diffrent standards than our own. City hall should have copies of the ordinances. You can see what modifications you might need to make to be able to keep the parts but out of the site of the others in your neighborhood.

At least you are trying to get the parts to sell to others instead of junking them.

Hope everything works out okay for you.

*Fast68Chevy* · 10-24-2002, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by whateva
I am totally shocked that the zoning officer is a jerk! I don't know why he would be upset when he gets calls from your neighbors complaining that they are living next to a 'junk yard'!

Wyoming here you come!

Good Luck!

i disregard what you say, you dont know how i live and what i do, you are yet again of no help at all whatsoever to another thread or reply of mine, im tired of you cut the crap out now please. how many times do i have to ask you to quit it ?

*Fast68Chevy* · 10-24-2002, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by imaindianoutlaw
What the hell this happens like every 6 months to you?

yeah this has happened for the third time now, im waiting for the towing guy to take away the wagon, i lodaed it up with parts liuke 68 hood and grille and all kinds of camaro and truck and impala glass, and etc stuff thats outside in plain view, someday maybe ill have a couple or three acres of some inexpensive land outside of city limits to fence up

*Fast68Chevy* · 10-24-2002, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by snow man
whats the bottom price on the dented up bed,could come pick it up late sat. snow man

snowman, 75 ?
wayyyyy less than i gave for it but i have no choice, i think you got ot see the bed sides didnt you ? i cant remember now.

thanks

*Fast68Chevy* · 10-24-2002, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Primered_69
Hey man sorry this happened to you but sometimes the community we live in has diffrent standards than our own. City hall should have copies of the ordinances. You can see what modifications you might need to make to be able to keep the parts but out of the site of the others in your neighborhood.

At least you are trying to get the parts to sell to others instead of junking them.

Hope everything works out okay for you.

thanks primer,
yeah thats the problem, each community has its own regulations and so forth when it comes to property and vehicle related rules.
found a loophole so far that may buy me time in that the letter that arrived today from city stated for only one address of the property out here, so now all vehicles are in a neat row across the driveway on other property, started to tarp the 64, the wagon is leaving, i really really want the 9C1 suspensions off it, but im screwed and theres no way i can get it off this fast.,.,
out of sight, yes- parts are being put away if i cant or really dont need to save,
yet another example of crap that happens to the little guy who is trying to keep afloat in life in an honest way...

id like to hear anything at all that may be of any help(hints at whateva) in this that others have done to buy more time or be able to keep complete vehicle that may not run under its own power on their property.
i already kow what the ideal things to do to fix this would be but i cant do that yet, currently, but dealers; license is a possibility, and getting copy of ordinances i need to go get from uptown.,

thanks for anything further.

**68 Stepside** · 10-24-2002, 07:51 PM

You know Randy,

I have to agree with you that whateva may not be helpful, but, in turn, by making assinine little comments such as the following, you are only fueling the fire. Here's an idea, the next time he buts into the thread, PM him with your ideas, or.....just ignore it!!!!

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Originally posted by whateva
I am totally shocked that the zoning officer is a jerk! I don't know why he would be upset when he gets calls from your neighbors complaining that they are living next to a 'junk yard'!

Wyoming here you come!

Good Luck!
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i disregard what you say, you dont know how i live and what i do, you are yet again of no help at all whatsoever to another thread or reply of mine, im tired of you cut the crap out now please. how many times do i have to ask you to quit it ?

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id like to hear anything at all that may be of any help(hints at whateva) in this that others have done...

If you wouldn't fuel the fire, it would eventually die out. You're only giving people that taunt you satisfaction, when you reply to them.

Keep that in mind...sheesh....

kobuzz · 10-24-2002, 08:17 PM

Can't you just fence in part of your property? Here in Tx. you need to keep it out of site. If you can't afford to have a fence built watch for when other people get their fences done and get what's still good(fence stringers and pickets) and build from that. I fenced in my rear yard area with a 2 car driveway from discarded fence panels. I even double lined it so there's NO WAY you can see into my yard. Only cost me 5 posts and some concrete.

imaindianoutlaw · 10-24-2002, 08:26 PM

Damm I wish you were in PA I would love to have half the stuff you have to trash! Bummer! To bad we all couldnt have money to build big garages huh?

*Fast68Chevy* · 10-24-2002, 08:43 PM

im trying to snatch off whatever parts i can that are major enough cool enough part to stash,. since im so far addicted to this i might as well try and save all i can and hope i can get away with it. this isnt really a battle, but whatever its considered im not gonna win it in the long run and ive been fighting it for quite a while now, im hoping that with new national chains stores contracts the plant has been signing that we wont have so much layoff time like we have been, our local unemployment level just hit 10 year record level, thanks to LDC closing here in town thansk to state of the state and Gov Ryan(to be polite: a moron, *cough*)
and i am trying to get into some school, gonna have to start out smaller than id like to with a little welder course and work my way up, ill deal with that after this city zoning crap is quiet hopefully soon.... trying to survive any way i can in positive way.

thanks.,.,

**jerry moss** · 10-24-2002, 10:11 PM

Randy,
i live in what was/is the fastest growing community in all of california. thank goodness i live in an older part of town, on a dead end side street and have great neighbors. right now i have my 3-72 4x4s, a 79 blazer, a 90 SS454,a 96 plymouth breeze, and a 57 2 door sedan plus all my other crap and so far nobody has complained---------- yet. i did exactly as was posted earlier, i got some used redwood fence boards, bought some posts and cement and built a fence that hides most of the "crap". i try to keep the visable part of my yard as organized as possible but sometimes it's tough when i get a bunch of parts or a complete truck to dismantle.
best of luck.

crazy4chevs · 10-24-2002, 11:24 PM

Just a thought

This may not help but maybe some people that want /need the parts could donate fencing or help a fellow board member out for the parts they need. It might cost you some parts now, but in the long run you would beat the inspectors and be able to continue behind the fence.

bbs1965 · 10-25-2002, 04:19 AM

I love wrecking yards!!! You wouldn't have a problem if you were
my neighbor. I once had to crush 25 cars because the city caught me running a wrecking yard out of a 185 acre farm bastards. Its hard to make any coin off of old junk anymore anyways. I switched gears and started selling complete late model cars.
I love old iron but they don't come in often enough to pay the bills and I quit working for anyone last Friday. Too bad your not in Texas I know where a great union job is LOL!!! that is if you want to work for someone.

DarkFox1 · 10-25-2002, 06:45 AM

what a load of bull.. you should have answered the door with a shotgun to his face.

ok so maybe thats over-doing it.. but I would be pissed to no end if some jack@ss govt offical came onto my land telling me what I could and could not do with my own GD property.

if your neighbors dont like your yard they need to put up a GD fence.. do something about it themselves..not call on the Fing government to do everything for them.. thats a sign of lazyness.. when you dislike something and you're too lazy to do anything about it.

how about you get a big tarp and cover it all up? lol if I lived in your state the way my back yard looks the govt would just probablly drop down from the helicoptors and kill me for not having a nice clean cut no parts yard. I have 2 beds side by side, 1 total crap, 1 thats being sold mid next month, 2 hoods.. god.. I can see where you're coming from.. maybe thats why I'm so uptight about this BS.

I'd petition my congressman to change that bullsh!t I would never have some govt SOB coming on my land telling me what it should look like.. if they want it to be so perfect they may as well buy it.. THEN they can tell you what to do.

the original constitution said life, liberty and PROPERTY.. and although it was changed.. I still beleive in that part of it.

I'm sorry, I dont need any of those parts ATM

whateva · 10-25-2002, 09:19 AM

I guess I am missing something, or I just don't understand. I mean, I spend 30 years of my life working to pay for the biggest purchase I will ever make. I keep my house painted and the yard well groomed. So why should I be upset that when my family and friends come over for Thanksgiving and Christmas, they have to see my neighbor out there torching 5 or 6 cars and parts in his front yard. Not to mention, why should I care what chemicals are being dropped into the ground near where my children play. How dare I be upset with his American Dream. He doesn't care about my American Dream, but I should close my eyes and shut my mouth as he torchs away to make a couple of bucks! Im sure if I ever go to sell my property the potential buyers would pay a premium to live next to such a neighbor that is living the american dream!

Also, the suggestions about the fences are good, but most citys require you get a "permit" before you put up any fences. The application usually ask the reason for the fence.

**COBALT** · 10-25-2002, 12:30 PM

...ah yes, the age-old rant. Randy, I know you actually haven't stated that the neighbors sicked the local authorities on you, but I think its probably a pretty safe assumption, isn't it? How else did the city/county know to come out and talk to you?

First, it's damn anoying to have the city or county start trying to boss you around on your own property. I sympathize completely. I grew up in a rural area, where now you have to have a permit to move your own dirt around. I had to help my dad put up gates, extra fences, and "No Tresspassing" signs because the county (King) kept showing up wanting to "inspect" my dad's dog's pet licenses. Of course none of them have licenses because we didn't live in GD Downtown Seattle, we lived in the middle of 60 acres of barely anything...so trust me I understand.

Second, as a guy who lives in Seattle now I also understand the *OTHER* side of this argument as well. There's some pretty damn inconsiderate neighbors in our area. Our homes are TINY, and the lots are not even set up for working on a vehicle. There's no where to put coolant, used oil, tranny fluid, or old tires. You have to pay to have that dealt with. Also, since property is so damned expensive out here everyone is banking on their property values increasing over time, otherwise you as a homeowner feel like you've wasted $250,000. Therefore, when you see some jackass (no, I'm not calling you one) in your neighborhood lets his house rot out from under him, and fill the yard with garbage and junk you can literally see your property value drop before your very eyes. It's not a pleasant experience as a home owner. Plus, you want to enjoy the neighborhood, and feel apart of something.

Third, don't let this continue until you end up in legal trouble. My parents are in hell right now because of this tree cutting thing. Their neighbors are now facing serious consequences, and its drove them to pettiness, and its making life unbearable out there. As an example their stupid dog has always found its way over into my parents property for years, but we usually would ignore it. No big deal. We never called the guy, and we never complained. Recently the damn mutt ended up over in our field, and one of my parents' dogs tied into it. Both dogs got ripped up, and our dog ended up at the vet with some stitches, and 3 teeth extracted. $300 bill. My parents paid it and kept quiet. Next thing we find out these moron neighbors called the Humane Society and Animal Protection, and "reported" my parents for animal abuse to their dog. They showed up at my parents' front gate like they were The Wiatt brothers. It didn't come to anything, but come on! Un b-f$%king-lievable.

Forth, this isn't really a State or National issue. Each body drafts their own laws, and follows their own constitutions. Therefore any city or county ordinance that sets guidelines of how your property is zoned, and what you're allowed to do with it are decided by a bunch of council members who live somewhere in your kneck of the woods. If they don't live locally then they don't represent the area, and you should vote them out. If you don't think they're doing their jobs, then vote them out. If you think they're conspiring against property owners, then vote them the hell out.

Therefore, the result of all of this BS is that folks don't act like communities any more. They are too intimidated to simply walk over and have a chat with their neighbors about the problem, and solve it like adults. The neighbor with the junky yard are defensive, and you (being the annoyed homeowner) are usually emotional, so the easy thing to do is call the city or county and have them solve the problem. In the mean time we're all too busy to go to city/county council meetings and voice our opinions. Last I heard these were open meetings you could go to. It's been a while since I've gone to one, but its important nonetheless.

Good luck selling your stuff. I like the fence idea. Just deal with it like any other problem.

I'd love to get ahold of your '70 coil sprung SWB setup. Too bad I'm not local. I'll get back to you about the tranny yoke...

DarkFox1 · 10-25-2002, 12:51 PM

well, I guess I can't say from the homeowners perspective.. I'm 21.. single.. all that stuff, not exactly mr independant. I live in a large neighborhood with a minnimum of 2.5 acres per lot. we have 6 or so acres... a 3200 sq ft house and a 3600sq ft garage slightly behind it. my neighbors are a pretty good distance away in either direction, and the only way they would even know what we're doing (besides the really loud noise a rusted bolt a ratchet and a 5' lead pipe for leverage makes) is to walk over here and be nosey.

I dont act like a community in my neighborhood simply because there is no community to me here, what I do is my business, what they do is their business.. and the line of trees that seperates our properties can't be touched by ether of us.. unless we agree to do so.

there are neighborhoods here that are tiny. .mainstream places with 1/2 an acre with a 1/4 acre house, you know.. you look out your window you see a brick wall.. that kind of place.. if thats the kind of place you live in then I suppose I could understand how your neighbors would get alittle annoyed.. but if they are any kind of car people they should understand. you have to break eggs to make mayonaise. .and I'm sure you're not out there doing this stuff at 3AM or anything.. or on christmas day when theyre trying to have a holiday gathering... are you? :P

Restoration is a blessing to these old vehicles, and a large part of our history our culture.. and hell its just fun.. a person that tells me I have to junk my car just because its not perfect, or because its a work in progress to me is threatening restoration as a hobby.. and I personally get insulted by that.

**COBALT** · 10-25-2002, 01:01 PM

Yeah, it's interesting how facinated people in my neighborhood are when I tell them I'm restoring an old truck. "Wow! What year!", and then I tell them. Then they yack on and on about how their dad/grandpa/uncle had one, and they've always wanted to do something similar.

Of course the story changes when I start up the angle grinder. I see people who usually annoy the whole neighborhood with their music turned up too loud at 12:00 am looking at me through their windows with bothered looks on their faces in the middle of the day on a Saturday. Go figure.

DarkFox1 · 10-25-2002, 01:04 PM

lol, you hit the nail on the head.. my neighbor likes to be social.. unfortunatley hes in the wrong neighborhood for that.. his name is the only one I know in this place. and right now I can't even remmeber it..

he talks about people he knows owning these things too.. but you'd be suprised.. there are people who dont even know what a ratchet is.. much less the know-how to restore a vehicle.

I'm learning as I go.. I admit I'm no guru.. I've learned a lot thanks to my dad.. a restoration is a great experience I think for anyone. I'm amazed all the time by people who dont even know how many cylinders there cars have.

*Fast68Chevy* · 10-25-2002, 02:14 PM

thanks guys,

well with how it is and has been going in regards to vehicles and the parts- the fact that the city and most people locally and on this forum seem to be against what i am and have been doing in in th last few years- whether it be because of the addiction of it or for a small way of trying to keep afloat and survive while laid off from the plant- i really truly need ot refrain and resist from adopting any more parts worthy/junk vehicles unless i ever am in a position where i could have a place out of city limits to do this type of thing and also be able to have a project vehicle or two. even a project vehicle breaks rules of zoning ordinance, we cant win on this type of thing,

this is all in regards to trying to myself attempting to salveage good reuseable parts, instead of watching them go straight to local towing yards(in which whom dont have salveage licenses to be able to legally sell parts off the vehicles) and then watch them being taken to scrap/shredder yard after being smashed down by bulldozer,.,

with way things are, there is no real way for little guy to try and help the hobby by trying to take on vehicles destined for scrap in order to salveage anything off them either fo ruse by them or by others in same hobby and interest.

im not sure why CPNE and DR- and others who have quit parts- have quit, but probably maybe related ot these types of problems, and/or due to too much of a hassle, for lack of better terms/explanation. i hope to be the next person to quit, i really do and need to, its not worth it, just isnt, wil hate to see what gets wasted that i wont be able to do anything about because no ne else around here in this immediate region will take the time to care about what gets wasted off of vehicles.

its really becoming not worth the required trouble and effort to keep trying to save everyhing that would otherwise just go to scrap heaven,
some of you may understand and i know for a fact others here dont understand and may never and are one sided on this issue, unfortunately, being close minded is a bad thing

all i can do now is make myself stop taking in any more parts vehicles and sell or scrap what i have left.

this is all i can think of to say right now-with what and how things are happening currently- that wil be in positive form
thanks for listening and supplying any info of any help.

R

**Desert Rat** · 10-25-2002, 05:07 PM

I got a warning,here your only allowed so many licensed running vehicles.i used cedar boards attached to the chainlink to hide from the street.not much you can do except get rid of it or hide it.you can try to fight the citys but youll lose.Thats why i junking most keep the treasures,build them have them done.i dont like looking in my neighbors backyard full of junk,so i expect others wouldnt like mine either,and i got sick of it,and want nice grass,gravel and plants.if i want junkyard ill go to one.

*Fast68Chevy* · 10-25-2002, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by Desert Rat
I got a warning,here your only allowed so many licensed running vehicles.i used cedar boards attached to the chainlink to hide from the street.not much you can do except get rid of it or hide it.you can try to fight the citys but youll lose.Thats why i junking most keep the treasures,build them have them done.i dont like looking in my neighbors backyard full of junk,so i expect others wouldnt like mine either,and i got sick of it,and want nice grass,gravel and plants.if i want junkyard ill go to one.

Yep, that pretty well sums it up.

thanks micah

also i gotta worry about the 74 cheyenne 20 too.... gotta make it into trailer or whatever i can, soon somehow and hope city doesnt get pissy about having that out here after then, cuz right now they dont like how it is as totally complete truck with large camper on it.

thanks

10-24-2002, 03:09 PM	#1
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	city zoning guy got me yesterdya morning, parts gotta go that are outside laying i woke up yesterday morning to the damn city zoning officer inspecting properties out here, once again, he wants vehicles out of here and all these parts out of here, i habve no choice- as always dont when he shows up and says to quit this and have it alll removed in 7 or so days.. entire front third of a 72 rolling chassis with disc suspension, '72 127" long fleet bed with needed dent removla on very lower sides, is long fleet, bad floor, clean sides 1968 3/4 ton large output yoke 2wd 465 tranny 86 caprice wagon, demo or whatever, no drivetrain, 64 C-10 nice tailgate minor dent no cancer, 64 C10 nice long bed, no rust holes, floor damn good for IL, dented lower rear pass side that can be straightened, is not horrible or anything, has good rad support from what i can see, and good grille and surround fender tip trim pieces, and doors a liltte rust through on rear bottom corner, easy fix for IL doors heater parts, three tree column and orig. two spoke wheel and extra cap. 70 swb 2wd coil frame, needs blasted and painted, the usual. front suspe on it cept for steering link and tie rods, rear arms are not. im guessing 7 days as usual, this is third time this has happened, i m in middle of residential area and on three properties that had been commerical for many yeas and may still be on some of the lots. 15,000 ppl town, no fencing, just tarps. i know he would just agure to me that its not commercial out here, but i dont have fencing or anything just try to keep items covered as best as i cxan, have already stashed a coupel of engines so far, got two more to get stashed, i dont know what ill be able ot do with xomplete 74 C20 camper cheyenne truck, its my storage unit, and i have plans to convert it to pull behind bed camper/trailer, is not licensed yet though, so hmmmmmm what can i do ? its got my 454 in it and not running right now, id be screwed on that one,. its so much of a hassle trying to have vehicles that it really gets old, but i have to survive somehoe while am laid off for so long like have been for years now.,.,,. if anyone knows anyone who can come get any of these items out of here fo sake of not just wasting them to shredder then lemme know we could work something out later or something, i have little time to do this before the parts and unrunning vehicles got to be stashed out of sight somehow or something number is 217 735 3230 and im in lincoln il, i can call if preferred, i know several ppl on here have had the same thing happen to them, wish someone knew some way i could get past this soemhow. the zoning guy is a total prick and im not sure how to go about this cept to strip off as many goodies as i can ASAP and well thats about it, where could i get copies of vehicle related zoning ordinances i am only assumign that i can be in the clear by stashing items out of sight, at least thats kept him quiet in the past thanks for anything Last edited by Fast68Chevy; 10-24-2002 at 03:12 PM.

10-24-2002, 03:13 PM	#2
imaindianoutlaw GMC SHORT FLEET F/S Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: SOUTH WILLIAMSPORT PENNSYLVANNIA Posts: 2,117	What the hell this happens like every 6 months to you? __________________ CHARLES WADE HEIN HVACR FOREMAN. LEWISBURG U.S.P.

10-24-2002, 04:56 PM	#4
snow man Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mt. zion illinois Posts: 276	71 bed whats the bottom price on the dented up bed,could come pick it up late sat. snow man

10-24-2002, 06:10 PM	#5
Primered_69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 1,409	Hey man sorry this happened to you but sometimes the community we live in has diffrent standards than our own. City hall should have copies of the ordinances. You can see what modifications you might need to make to be able to keep the parts but out of the site of the others in your neighborhood. At least you are trying to get the parts to sell to others instead of junking them. Hope everything works out okay for you. __________________ 1969 Chevy LWB - with shaved handles; 3 1/2 front/ 5 1/2 rear drop; (waiting to be put back together)

10-24-2002, 08:26 PM	#12
imaindianoutlaw GMC SHORT FLEET F/S Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: SOUTH WILLIAMSPORT PENNSYLVANNIA Posts: 2,117	Damm I wish you were in PA I would love to have half the stuff you have to trash! Bummer! To bad we all couldnt have money to build big garages huh? __________________ CHARLES WADE HEIN HVACR FOREMAN. LEWISBURG U.S.P.

10-24-2002, 03:57 PM	#3
whateva Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Poway, Ca Posts: 108	I am totally shocked that the zoning officer is a jerk! I don't know why he would be upset when he gets calls from your neighbors complaining that they are living next to a 'junk yard'! Wyoming here you come! Good Luck!

10-24-2002, 08:17 PM	#11
kobuzz Parts Whore Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: lockdown cell #1465 Posts: 105	Can't you just fence in part of your property? Here in Tx. you need to keep it out of site. If you can't afford to have a fence built watch for when other people get their fences done and get what's still good(fence stringers and pickets) and build from that. I fenced in my rear yard area with a 2 car driveway from discarded fence panels. I even double lined it so there's NO WAY you can see into my yard. Only cost me 5 posts and some concrete.

10-24-2002, 08:43 PM	#13
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	im trying to snatch off whatever parts i can that are major enough cool enough part to stash,. since im so far addicted to this i might as well try and save all i can and hope i can get away with it. this isnt really a battle, but whatever its considered im not gonna win it in the long run and ive been fighting it for quite a while now, im hoping that with new national chains stores contracts the plant has been signing that we wont have so much layoff time like we have been, our local unemployment level just hit 10 year record level, thanks to LDC closing here in town thansk to state of the state and Gov Ryan(to be polite: a moron, cough) and i am trying to get into some school, gonna have to start out smaller than id like to with a little welder course and work my way up, ill deal with that after this city zoning crap is quiet hopefully soon.... trying to survive any way i can in positive way. thanks.,., Last edited by Fast68Chevy; 10-24-2002 at 08:51 PM.

10-24-2002, 10:11 PM	#14
jerry moss Born Psycho Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brentwood,cal,usa Posts: 4,959	Randy, i live in what was/is the fastest growing community in all of california. thank goodness i live in an older part of town, on a dead end side street and have great neighbors. right now i have my 3-72 4x4s, a 79 blazer, a 90 SS454,a 96 plymouth breeze, and a 57 2 door sedan plus all my other crap and so far nobody has complained---------- yet. i did exactly as was posted earlier, i got some used redwood fence boards, bought some posts and cement and built a fence that hides most of the "crap". i try to keep the visable part of my yard as organized as possible but sometimes it's tough when i get a bunch of parts or a complete truck to dismantle. best of luck. __________________ jerry moss 72 cheyenne super K20- tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,tow hooks,bumper guards,toolbox,aux. fuel tank,posi front and rear,plus other goodies!!! SOLD 69 suburban K20-tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,4 inch all spring lift,4 speed, 14 bolt full floater, dana 44 HD,warn winch,posi front and rear,tow hooks,plus other goodies. 73/80 chevy/gmc K20 SB400,turbo 400,205,tilt,a-c,gas hog. 77 K/5 cheyenne blazer-daily driver/beater. SON HAS IT NOW BRENTWOOD,CALIFORNIA

10-24-2002, 11:24 PM	#15
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	Just a thought This may not help but maybe some people that want /need the parts could donate fencing or help a fellow board member out for the parts they need. It might cost you some parts now, but in the long run you would beat the inspectors and be able to continue behind the fence. __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .

10-25-2002, 04:19 AM	#16
bbs1965 Open Sundays 10 till 10 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Waxahachie,Texas 75165 Posts: 1,009	I love wrecking yards!!! You wouldn't have a problem if you were my neighbor. I once had to crush 25 cars because the city caught me running a wrecking yard out of a 185 acre farm bastards. Its hard to make any coin off of old junk anymore anyways. I switched gears and started selling complete late model cars. I love old iron but they don't come in often enough to pay the bills and I quit working for anyone last Friday. Too bad your not in Texas I know where a great union job is LOL!!! that is if you want to work for someone. __________________ 817-846-5476 parts for sale always 30 minutes south of Dallas on I35 WWW.BBSAutoSalvage.com bbs1969@direcway.com

10-25-2002, 06:45 AM	#17
DarkFox1 in WAY over my head Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Douglasville GA Posts: 923	what a load of bull.. you should have answered the door with a shotgun to his face. ok so maybe thats over-doing it.. but I would be pissed to no end if some jack@ss govt offical came onto my land telling me what I could and could not do with my own GD property. if your neighbors dont like your yard they need to put up a GD fence.. do something about it themselves..not call on the Fing government to do everything for them.. thats a sign of lazyness.. when you dislike something and you're too lazy to do anything about it. how about you get a big tarp and cover it all up? lol if I lived in your state the way my back yard looks the govt would just probablly drop down from the helicoptors and kill me for not having a nice clean cut no parts yard. I have 2 beds side by side, 1 total crap, 1 thats being sold mid next month, 2 hoods.. god.. I can see where you're coming from.. maybe thats why I'm so uptight about this BS. I'd petition my congressman to change that bullsh!t I would never have some govt SOB coming on my land telling me what it should look like.. if they want it to be so perfect they may as well buy it.. THEN they can tell you what to do. the original constitution said life, liberty and PROPERTY.. and although it was changed.. I still beleive in that part of it. I'm sorry, I dont need any of those parts ATM

10-25-2002, 09:19 AM	#18
whateva Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Poway, Ca Posts: 108	I guess I am missing something, or I just don't understand. I mean, I spend 30 years of my life working to pay for the biggest purchase I will ever make. I keep my house painted and the yard well groomed. So why should I be upset that when my family and friends come over for Thanksgiving and Christmas, they have to see my neighbor out there torching 5 or 6 cars and parts in his front yard. Not to mention, why should I care what chemicals are being dropped into the ground near where my children play. How dare I be upset with his American Dream. He doesn't care about my American Dream, but I should close my eyes and shut my mouth as he torchs away to make a couple of bucks! Im sure if I ever go to sell my property the potential buyers would pay a premium to live next to such a neighbor that is living the american dream! Also, the suggestions about the fences are good, but most citys require you get a "permit" before you put up any fences. The application usually ask the reason for the fence. Last edited by whateva; 10-25-2002 at 11:01 AM.

10-25-2002, 12:30 PM	#19
COBALT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,817	...ah yes, the age-old rant. Randy, I know you actually haven't stated that the neighbors sicked the local authorities on you, but I think its probably a pretty safe assumption, isn't it? How else did the city/county know to come out and talk to you? First, it's damn anoying to have the city or county start trying to boss you around on your own property. I sympathize completely. I grew up in a rural area, where now you have to have a permit to move your own dirt around. I had to help my dad put up gates, extra fences, and "No Tresspassing" signs because the county (King) kept showing up wanting to "inspect" my dad's dog's pet licenses. Of course none of them have licenses because we didn't live in GD Downtown Seattle, we lived in the middle of 60 acres of barely anything...so trust me I understand. Second, as a guy who lives in Seattle now I also understand the OTHER side of this argument as well. There's some pretty damn inconsiderate neighbors in our area. Our homes are TINY, and the lots are not even set up for working on a vehicle. There's no where to put coolant, used oil, tranny fluid, or old tires. You have to pay to have that dealt with. Also, since property is so damned expensive out here everyone is banking on their property values increasing over time, otherwise you as a homeowner feel like you've wasted $250,000. Therefore, when you see some jackass (no, I'm not calling you one) in your neighborhood lets his house rot out from under him, and fill the yard with garbage and junk you can literally see your property value drop before your very eyes. It's not a pleasant experience as a home owner. Plus, you want to enjoy the neighborhood, and feel apart of something. Third, don't let this continue until you end up in legal trouble. My parents are in hell right now because of this tree cutting thing. Their neighbors are now facing serious consequences, and its drove them to pettiness, and its making life unbearable out there. As an example their stupid dog has always found its way over into my parents property for years, but we usually would ignore it. No big deal. We never called the guy, and we never complained. Recently the damn mutt ended up over in our field, and one of my parents' dogs tied into it. Both dogs got ripped up, and our dog ended up at the vet with some stitches, and 3 teeth extracted. $300 bill. My parents paid it and kept quiet. Next thing we find out these moron neighbors called the Humane Society and Animal Protection, and "reported" my parents for animal abuse to their dog. They showed up at my parents' front gate like they were The Wiatt brothers. It didn't come to anything, but come on! Un b-f$%king-lievable. Forth, this isn't really a State or National issue. Each body drafts their own laws, and follows their own constitutions. Therefore any city or county ordinance that sets guidelines of how your property is zoned, and what you're allowed to do with it are decided by a bunch of council members who live somewhere in your kneck of the woods. If they don't live locally then they don't represent the area, and you should vote them out. If you don't think they're doing their jobs, then vote them out. If you think they're conspiring against property owners, then vote them the hell out. Therefore, the result of all of this BS is that folks don't act like communities any more. They are too intimidated to simply walk over and have a chat with their neighbors about the problem, and solve it like adults. The neighbor with the junky yard are defensive, and you (being the annoyed homeowner) are usually emotional, so the easy thing to do is call the city or county and have them solve the problem. In the mean time we're all too busy to go to city/county council meetings and voice our opinions. Last I heard these were open meetings you could go to. It's been a while since I've gone to one, but its important nonetheless. Good luck selling your stuff. I like the fence idea. Just deal with it like any other problem. I'd love to get ahold of your '70 coil sprung SWB setup. Too bad I'm not local. I'll get back to you about the tranny yoke... __________________ '69 3/4 ton C20 2wd-350ci/TH400 '69 3/4 ton Custom 20 2wd-350ci/4sp Manual '99 2wd 5.7 Chevy Tahoe Seattle, WA. Last edited by COBALT; 10-25-2002 at 01:03 PM.

10-25-2002, 12:51 PM	#20
DarkFox1 in WAY over my head Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Douglasville GA Posts: 923	well, I guess I can't say from the homeowners perspective.. I'm 21.. single.. all that stuff, not exactly mr independant. I live in a large neighborhood with a minnimum of 2.5 acres per lot. we have 6 or so acres... a 3200 sq ft house and a 3600sq ft garage slightly behind it. my neighbors are a pretty good distance away in either direction, and the only way they would even know what we're doing (besides the really loud noise a rusted bolt a ratchet and a 5' lead pipe for leverage makes) is to walk over here and be nosey. I dont act like a community in my neighborhood simply because there is no community to me here, what I do is my business, what they do is their business.. and the line of trees that seperates our properties can't be touched by ether of us.. unless we agree to do so. there are neighborhoods here that are tiny. .mainstream places with 1/2 an acre with a 1/4 acre house, you know.. you look out your window you see a brick wall.. that kind of place.. if thats the kind of place you live in then I suppose I could understand how your neighbors would get alittle annoyed.. but if they are any kind of car people they should understand. you have to break eggs to make mayonaise. .and I'm sure you're not out there doing this stuff at 3AM or anything.. or on christmas day when theyre trying to have a holiday gathering... are you? :P Restoration is a blessing to these old vehicles, and a large part of our history our culture.. and hell its just fun.. a person that tells me I have to junk my car just because its not perfect, or because its a work in progress to me is threatening restoration as a hobby.. and I personally get insulted by that.



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10-25-2002, 01:01 PM	#21
COBALT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,817	Yeah, it's interesting how facinated people in my neighborhood are when I tell them I'm restoring an old truck. "Wow! What year!", and then I tell them. Then they yack on and on about how their dad/grandpa/uncle had one, and they've always wanted to do something similar. Of course the story changes when I start up the angle grinder. I see people who usually annoy the whole neighborhood with their music turned up too loud at 12:00 am looking at me through their windows with bothered looks on their faces in the middle of the day on a Saturday. Go figure. __________________ '69 3/4 ton C20 2wd-350ci/TH400 '69 3/4 ton Custom 20 2wd-350ci/4sp Manual '99 2wd 5.7 Chevy Tahoe Seattle, WA.

10-25-2002, 01:04 PM	#22
DarkFox1 in WAY over my head Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Douglasville GA Posts: 923	lol, you hit the nail on the head.. my neighbor likes to be social.. unfortunatley hes in the wrong neighborhood for that.. his name is the only one I know in this place. and right now I can't even remmeber it.. he talks about people he knows owning these things too.. but you'd be suprised.. there are people who dont even know what a ratchet is.. much less the know-how to restore a vehicle. I'm learning as I go.. I admit I'm no guru.. I've learned a lot thanks to my dad.. a restoration is a great experience I think for anyone. I'm amazed all the time by people who dont even know how many cylinders there cars have.

10-25-2002, 02:14 PM	#23
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	thanks guys, well with how it is and has been going in regards to vehicles and the parts- the fact that the city and most people locally and on this forum seem to be against what i am and have been doing in in th last few years- whether it be because of the addiction of it or for a small way of trying to keep afloat and survive while laid off from the plant- i really truly need ot refrain and resist from adopting any more parts worthy/junk vehicles unless i ever am in a position where i could have a place out of city limits to do this type of thing and also be able to have a project vehicle or two. even a project vehicle breaks rules of zoning ordinance, we cant win on this type of thing, this is all in regards to trying to myself attempting to salveage good reuseable parts, instead of watching them go straight to local towing yards(in which whom dont have salveage licenses to be able to legally sell parts off the vehicles) and then watch them being taken to scrap/shredder yard after being smashed down by bulldozer,., with way things are, there is no real way for little guy to try and help the hobby by trying to take on vehicles destined for scrap in order to salveage anything off them either fo ruse by them or by others in same hobby and interest. im not sure why CPNE and DR- and others who have quit parts- have quit, but probably maybe related ot these types of problems, and/or due to too much of a hassle, for lack of better terms/explanation. i hope to be the next person to quit, i really do and need to, its not worth it, just isnt, wil hate to see what gets wasted that i wont be able to do anything about because no ne else around here in this immediate region will take the time to care about what gets wasted off of vehicles. its really becoming not worth the required trouble and effort to keep trying to save everyhing that would otherwise just go to scrap heaven, some of you may understand and i know for a fact others here dont understand and may never and are one sided on this issue, unfortunately, being close minded is a bad thing all i can do now is make myself stop taking in any more parts vehicles and sell or scrap what i have left. this is all i can think of to say right now-with what and how things are happening currently- that wil be in positive form thanks for listening and supplying any info of any help. R

10-25-2002, 05:07 PM	#24
Desert Rat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Darrington, Washington Posts: 3,963	I got a warning,here your only allowed so many licensed running vehicles.i used cedar boards attached to the chainlink to hide from the street.not much you can do except get rid of it or hide it.you can try to fight the citys but youll lose.Thats why i junking most keep the treasures,build them have them done.i dont like looking in my neighbors backyard full of junk,so i expect others wouldnt like mine either,and i got sick of it,and want nice grass,gravel and plants.if i want junkyard ill go to one.

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