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pokethesmot · 06-11-2009, 03:13 AM

my uncle said that u get less millage out of the gas with 10% ethanol...is this true and by how much

79gmcc15 · 06-11-2009, 03:41 AM

yes, ethanol gas does give you a lower MPG. which sucks because almost all of the pumps around here have ethanol.

pokethesmot · 06-11-2009, 03:50 AM

ok so heres my thing flash foods is right down the road from my house and they sell gas with ethanol for $2.50 yet about a quarter mile down the ride from that is walmart and it doesn't look like they put ethanol in there gas(no signs saying they do) and they sell it for $2.45...so is it worth it just to go to walmart

Longhorn Man · 06-11-2009, 05:08 AM

5 cents a gallon comes out to 1.00 difference in a 20 gallon fill up.
Just go get the non ethenol fuel.

thirdstreettito · 06-11-2009, 07:18 AM

There is about 1 place within 100mi of me with ethanol, plus I use diesel.

63 & 64 Bowties · 06-11-2009, 08:10 AM

Except for the e85 which is 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline, most all brands are switching to 10% ethanol and 90% gasoline. The government is giving oil companies a 50 cent tax break on every gallon of ethanol they sell. So, that means e10 mixture is 5 cents a gallon cheaper on taxes.
But, here's the kicker.....
10% ethanol = 10% less gas mileage.
Why don't they just forget about adding ethanol, and just add water.

Eventually it's gonna be all you can buy. But, I'm searching out the non-ethanol as long as I can.
You should do the same.
Trust me, I just retired from Shell Oil Company last September.

rambler · 06-11-2009, 10:14 AM

around here all of them are 10% ethanol, including the wal-mart, I've also stopped buying gas at wal-mart/murphy oil, seems like I get worse milage from those stations.

you may check also, even if they dont have signs, they may still be pumping ethanol, in there.

**fine69** · 06-11-2009, 10:26 AM

Yea, when Longhorn man and i made that trip from Oregon last Christmas in the wagon i noticed it.

I inadvertedly put ethanol fuel in the wagon. Burned through ALOT quicker.

We don't have too much of it here.

Sucks.

63 & 64 Bowties · 06-11-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rambler

you may check also, even if they dont have signs, they may still be pumping ethanol, in there.

Maybe, but it's illegal. By law there's supposed to be a label on the retail dispenser.

67ChevyRedneck · 06-11-2009, 12:19 PM

I posted this before, but couldn't find my old post or where I originally got the info from, but all of SC's gas stations will be required to use E10 by 2012 to reduce emissions. It's difficult to find stations without it here in Greenville. It's the stuff that's used in "winter blend fuel" anyway. And some of the stations have a sign on the pump that say's "Maycontain up to 10% Ethanol."

No, I'm not a fan of using it, my silverado sees at least a 1mpg loss with it.

babyJay · 06-11-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fine69

Yea, when Longhorn man and i made that trip from Oregon last Christmas in the wagon i noticed it.

I inadvertedly put ethanol fuel in the wagon. Burned through ALOT quicker.

We don't have too much of it here.

Sucks.

In Eastern Ohio you do not have many gas stations, period.

Longhorn Man · 06-11-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by babyJay

In Eastern Ohio you do not have many gas stations, period.

glad we never head east. (mike's in western/central, and I'm in central ohio)
E-10 has been around for a long time, and is more common than most people think.
The comment on wall mart fuel burning fast has been observed by MANY people, including myself.... and that's saying something considering I don't check my MPG but once a year... if that.

Prerunner1982 · 06-11-2009, 03:56 PM

I believe the stations here are required to post if they have 10% ethanol. Some of them used 10% when gas was $4 a gallon. Now the majority dont, infact I dont know of a place that does. Even 7-11 (usually cheapest in town) doesn't.

*Shane* · 06-11-2009, 05:11 PM

Ethanol produces LESS BTU's per unit than gasoline, therefore it requires MORE volume of ethanol to produce the same amount of energy versus gasoline.

68C15 · 06-11-2009, 10:44 PM

plus ethanol is corrosive. even GM has come out and said it in a bulletin about the intake gaskets on the 5.3s

Tater · 06-11-2009, 10:57 PM

I think every gas station I've been to in Illinois says may contain up to 10% ethanol

pokethesmot · 06-11-2009, 11:28 PM

looks like the walmart in my town is suppose to be now using ethanol

*78 Chevyrado* · 06-12-2009, 12:22 AM

IIRC 40% or so of all gasoline nationwide must be 10% ethanol. It's hit or miss where it is or isn't. You may get 2% ethanol or 0% or 10% or anywhere in between. I can tell when I get close to straight gas because I get around 75-85 miles farther on a 20gallon tank of fuel. I can also tell when I get 10% or close to it because then the truck don't run right and I get around 170-180 miles out of 20 gallons of gas. On the old gas (no ethanol) I got around 320 or so miles out of that same 20 gallons.

It's crap gas for the same price as better gas. They found yet another way to screw everyone over again. I hope the airplanes get stuck with Ethanol too, that would be awesome.

pokethesmot · 06-12-2009, 12:30 AM

there is a old gas station right down the road from me too that uses crummy pumps but no ethanol...im kinda scared about using that gas station cuz i try not to use small gas stations...but would it be worth taking the chance on it cuz its ethanol free

**special-K** · 06-12-2009, 06:33 AM

Yes.I don`t give a second thought to patronizing small independants.I actually prefer them.All stations are regualated and the fuel comes from the same sources.
This morning on the news there`s story about an Exxon station that is shut down and Exxon is paying repairations to customers of one of their stations that was pumping bad gas.A local mechanic figured it out.It could happen anywhere.The contaminant destroys fuel pumps,but fast.

06-11-2009, 03:13 AM	#1
pokethesmot profeshinaly unimployed Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: hazlehurst, GA Posts: 1,232	gas? my uncle said that u get less millage out of the gas with 10% ethanol...is this true and by how much __________________ my ride click here my myspace "having mud flaps is like asking for a smaller trophy"

06-11-2009, 03:41 AM	#2
79gmcc15 Gettin It One Pice At A Time Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: everett, washington Posts: 2,688	Re: gas? yes, ethanol gas does give you a lower MPG. which sucks because almost all of the pumps around here have ethanol. __________________ RIP ELJAY Work In Progress 1979 GMC C1500 Trailering Special. Getting the truck done, one piece at a time. “You can tell a lot about a fellow’s character by his way of eating jellybeans.”Ronald Reagan “I don’t know the key to success but I know the key to failure is trying to please everybody.” Bill Cosby

06-11-2009, 03:50 AM	#3
pokethesmot profeshinaly unimployed Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: hazlehurst, GA Posts: 1,232	Re: gas? ok so heres my thing flash foods is right down the road from my house and they sell gas with ethanol for $2.50 yet about a quarter mile down the ride from that is walmart and it doesn't look like they put ethanol in there gas(no signs saying they do) and they sell it for $2.45...so is it worth it just to go to walmart __________________ my ride click here my myspace "having mud flaps is like asking for a smaller trophy"

06-11-2009, 05:08 AM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: gas? 5 cents a gallon comes out to 1.00 difference in a 20 gallon fill up. Just go get the non ethenol fuel.

06-11-2009, 07:18 AM	#5
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: gas? There is about 1 place within 100mi of me with ethanol, plus I use diesel. __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

06-11-2009, 08:10 AM	#6
63 & 64 Bowties and a few others Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 5,638	Re: gas? Except for the e85 which is 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline, most all brands are switching to 10% ethanol and 90% gasoline. The government is giving oil companies a 50 cent tax break on every gallon of ethanol they sell. So, that means e10 mixture is 5 cents a gallon cheaper on taxes. But, here's the kicker..... 10% ethanol = 10% less gas mileage. Why don't they just forget about adding ethanol, and just add water. Eventually it's gonna be all you can buy. But, I'm searching out the non-ethanol as long as I can. You should do the same. Trust me, I just retired from Shell Oil Company last September. __________________ Bill US Army Vet -193rd Infantry BlueRidgeMuscleCars.com “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated” Gandhi

06-11-2009, 10:14 AM	#7
rambler MOVE OVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Warrensburg, MO Posts: 5,470	Re: gas? around here all of them are 10% ethanol, including the wal-mart, I've also stopped buying gas at wal-mart/murphy oil, seems like I get worse milage from those stations. you may check also, even if they dont have signs, they may still be pumping ethanol, in there. __________________ No matter where you are..... There you are... Buckaroo Banzi

06-11-2009, 10:26 AM	#8
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	Re: gas? Yea, when Longhorn man and i made that trip from Oregon last Christmas in the wagon i noticed it. I inadvertedly put ethanol fuel in the wagon. Burned through ALOT quicker. We don't have too much of it here. Sucks. __________________ 2008 Chevy HHR 1/2 panel. 1949 Chevy Panel truck(just sittin, waiting) Board member #6

06-11-2009, 12:19 PM	#10
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: gas? I posted this before, but couldn't find my old post or where I originally got the info from, but all of SC's gas stations will be required to use E10 by 2012 to reduce emissions. It's difficult to find stations without it here in Greenville. It's the stuff that's used in "winter blend fuel" anyway. And some of the stations have a sign on the pump that say's "Maycontain up to 10% Ethanol." No, I'm not a fan of using it, my silverado sees at least a 1mpg loss with it. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications! Last edited by 67ChevyRedneck; 06-11-2009 at 12:22 PM.

06-11-2009, 03:56 PM	#13
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	Re: gas? I believe the stations here are required to post if they have 10% ethanol. Some of them used 10% when gas was $4 a gallon. Now the majority dont, infact I dont know of a place that does. Even 7-11 (usually cheapest in town) doesn't. __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

06-11-2009, 05:11 PM	#14
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: gas? Ethanol produces LESS BTU's per unit than gasoline, therefore it requires MORE volume of ethanol to produce the same amount of energy versus gasoline.

06-11-2009, 10:44 PM	#15
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06-11-2009, 10:57 PM	#16
Tater Cradle Robber Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lily Lake,Illinois Posts: 774	Re: gas? I think every gas station I've been to in Illinois says may contain up to 10% ethanol __________________ "The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind." Humphrey Bogart "Hippies.They're everywhere.They wanna save the earth,but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad."Eric Cartman "Think about how stupid the average person is,and realize half of them are stupider than that."George Carlin

06-11-2009, 11:28 PM	#17
pokethesmot profeshinaly unimployed Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: hazlehurst, GA Posts: 1,232	Re: gas? looks like the walmart in my town is suppose to be now using ethanol __________________ my ride click here my myspace "having mud flaps is like asking for a smaller trophy"

06-12-2009, 12:22 AM	#18
78 Chevyrado Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Unnapreciative, Trollville Posts: 2,079	Re: gas? IIRC 40% or so of all gasoline nationwide must be 10% ethanol. It's hit or miss where it is or isn't. You may get 2% ethanol or 0% or 10% or anywhere in between. I can tell when I get close to straight gas because I get around 75-85 miles farther on a 20gallon tank of fuel. I can also tell when I get 10% or close to it because then the truck don't run right and I get around 170-180 miles out of 20 gallons of gas. On the old gas (no ethanol) I got around 320 or so miles out of that same 20 gallons. It's crap gas for the same price as better gas. They found yet another way to screw everyone over again. I hope the airplanes get stuck with Ethanol too, that would be awesome.



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06-12-2009, 12:30 AM	#19
pokethesmot profeshinaly unimployed Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: hazlehurst, GA Posts: 1,232	Re: gas? there is a old gas station right down the road from me too that uses crummy pumps but no ethanol...im kinda scared about using that gas station cuz i try not to use small gas stations...but would it be worth taking the chance on it cuz its ethanol free __________________ my ride click here my myspace "having mud flaps is like asking for a smaller trophy"

06-12-2009, 06:33 AM	#20
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