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Old 08-06-2009, 08:59 PM   #1
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_cash_for_clunkers

funny thing is my 91 k1500 TBI gets 20mpg and its paid for 100x over...... the new titan is 45,000 FREAKIN DOLLARS and gets 12-15mpg so which is the bigger clunker/gas guzzler ???

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Old 08-06-2009, 09:02 PM   #2
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I watched the news tonight and they were talking to a dealer in central Texas, that was asking for their cars back. Wanting people to bring back their new cars because the dealer has not been able to process the govt paperwork and get their clunker money. But yet they had already gotten rid of the clunker cars that were traded in. What a mess.
Sad thing is that they are shredding the cars instead of puuting in a yard so we all can have access to the parts, another part of the govt program to do away with all cars older than 5 years forcing you to buy a new car every 5 years.

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Old 08-06-2009, 09:05 PM   #3
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oh come on now goverment programs always work PERFECT and they should be in charge of every aspect of our lives !! geezzz you believe everything you watch on tv...

oh and that intial 2 billion was spent in 10days supposedly... that means 222,222 cars where sold/traded in...

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A mechanic holds a tag that will be attached to the engine of a vehicle that was deliberately destroyed by pouring a solution of sodium silicate into the engine at Bay Ridge Toyota in New York, Tuesday, Aug. 4, 2009. The car was traded in for a newer, more fuel efficient model as part of the government's 'Cash for Clunkers' program.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:11 PM   #5
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A 1995 Toyota 4-Runner destined for destruction, part of the government's Cash For Clunkers program, is shown before it's engine was deliberately destroyed by pouring a solution of sodium silicate into it at Bay Ridge Toyota in New York, Tuesday, Aug. 4, 2009
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Mechanic Nick Vrakas, right, attracts an onlooker as he races the engine of a 1995 Toyota 4-Runner filled with sodium silicate to render it inoperable outside Bay Ridge Toyota in New York, Tuesday, Aug. 4, 2009. The vehicle, destined for destruction as part of the government's Cash for Clunkers program, was traded for a 2010 Toyota Corolla.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:14 PM   #7
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What a racket. Let me get this straight. First they STEAL $4500 from tax payers, give it to a bank(that they own) to get you in more DEBT. To buy a car from a car manufacturer(that they own)?
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:15 PM   #8
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So what is the long term effect of these cars being destroyed. Well lets see no more used cars, no more junk yards, used car lots, used car salesmen, no need for auto parts stores for the most part. How many thousands of lost jobs will be attributed to the cash for clunkers program.
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How many poor folk that can't afford a huge car payment would bennefit from all those government destroyed clunkers?
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I dont care to ever have another large car payment or new car again. I would rather have an old classic.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:25 PM   #11
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Thats a nice useable square body sitting there getting ready to be shredded.
Probably a good 350 engine in there and possibly a good useable set of spindles and disk brakes on it. i could see maybe getting rid of some late 70's to early 80's cars but hell they had a 2001 dodge durango slt traded in. Granted gas mileage sucks but thats a damn nice truck. Fully loaded and leather interior and probably 4x4 5.9 V8. Had one and loved it even if it did get bad gas mileage.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:33 PM   #12
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Don't get your panties in a bunch, it just meant better aftermarket parts support since less used parts will be around for repairs. Congress would have just bailed out more millionaire bankers with the money anyway.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:37 PM   #13
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you guys need to look into the facts a little better (and post this in the correct forum... where there's already 5 or so threads on the subject)
The cars don't need shredded under the C.A.R.S. program, just the engine needs locked up.
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A mechanic holds a tag that will be attached to the engine of a vehicle that was deliberately destroyed by pouring a solution of sodium silicate into the engine at Bay Ridge Toyota in New York, Tuesday, Aug. 4, 2009. The car was traded in for a newer, more fuel efficient model as part of the government's 'Cash for Clunkers' program.
At work we got a bout 20 cars from the program.. As far as i know.. we are going to put them onto the yard for parts.. The engine we cant sell.. since it's been destroyed. lots of chevy silverados 95-98 dodge ram 95-99 and other good cars.. what a waste
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Most of the captions in the pics said the cars were getting shredded.
"lots of chevy silverados 95-98 dodge ram 95-99 and other good cars.. what a waste " In my book those are good resellable trucks.
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Don't get your panties in a bunch, it just meant better aftermarket parts support since less used parts will be around for repairs. Congress would have just bailed out more millionaire bankers with the money anyway.
Panties in a wad??? Thats my tax money as well as yours at work. Lets face it what kind of aftermarket parts market is there gonna be?? Why provide aftermarket parts for cars being shreded?
And why the hell are they destroying the engines? Because its a gas guzzler? want about the 4 bangers they are destroying???

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funny thing is my 91 k1500 TBI gets 20mpg and its paid for 100x over...... the new titan is 45,000 FREAKIN DOLLARS and gets 12-15mpg so which is the bigger clunker/gas guzzler ???
The Titan is not an eligble vehicle for this program.

There is a tremendous amount of misinformation about this and a million other things out there. People have begun to treat entertainers and bloggers as credible news sources.
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The Titan is not an eligble vehicle for this program.

There is a tremendous amount of misinformation about this and a million other things out there. People have begun to treat entertainers and bloggers as credible news sources.
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have you seen a video of a car being locked up? look at the smoke cloud. that can't be good for the environment.

another point I feel should be made. I am in the auto repair business. I like the fact that new cars are being sold. it has to do with job security. in 5 years or so these cars will be coming to me for work.

salvage yards are upset about the engines being destroyed. I wonder what percentage of their inbound volume is from CARS as compared to accidents.
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The tone is down. your a little late.
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How many poor folk that can't afford a huge car payment would bennefit from all those government destroyed clunkers?
In-as-much as they ride the bus - it's not relevant.
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ouch, half those vehicles look better than the one I drive!
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