just a vent...

[Broken_down?]

anyone else out there learning to repair their trucks without help? I get so mad espially when trying to get the dam timing and dwell right.... There has to be a easy way to the 2 together.. sigh..

[Brainchild]

Do away with the points,and throw an HEI in it,that'll reduce your stress by 50%

[krue]

Originally Posted by Brainchild

Do away with the points,and throw an HEI in it,that'll reduce your stress by 50%

Amen brother! You beat me to it.

[68w/sbc406]

Originally Posted by Broken_down?

.... espially .. ..

so flustered he can even spell, some one get him HEI (J/K BTW)

[Bobalouie]

Do you have an Engine Analyzer? I bought one at Sears for $50 bucks and had no problem with the timing and dwell.

[Broken_down?]

Engine Analyzer?


What is that? I have decided to goto HEI. just gotta have the $$$ to do it. But willing to try the "Engine Analyzer?"

Rich

PS.. flustard is nto why my spelling was wrong.. it was me. I write better on paper, just type more errors. But thx for noticing <---

[Bobalouie]

Here is what it looks like:

[GMC AMI]

Originally Posted by Broken_down?

anyone else out there learning to repair their trucks without help? I get so mad espially when trying to get the dam timing and dwell right.... There has to be a easy way to the 2 together.. sigh..

The dwell angle must be set first and then the timing.

[70short]

That is $50. toward an HEI !!!! They are not that expensive. Look at summit.

[stickshift_or_walk]

Look at the junkyard first. They can still be found for around 20 bucks here. Check to make sure it's not the later model with no vacuum canister, and there should be no wires coming from the base. The good ones also have a larger cap. Check for excessive wear (the shaft shouldn't wobble in the case).

Add a cap & rotor, and drive it for another 20 years.

SSOW

[Broken_down?]

how do you know when the dwell angle is right? 8 degrees for timing right? vac advance line off while timing same with dwell adjustments? I can get anything from the net.. I wish I could download all your guys truck knowledge!

[Tynee]

The dwell and timing will be a little different for each individual trucks setup. On my 307 auto, it is 30 or 31 degrees dwell, 8 degrees before on the timing. A good service manual can be indispensable when trying to properly tune your truck.

[Longhorn Man]

I agree with the junk yard HEI. You can take the 50 bucks, buy the HEI, new cap, new rotor, and some inexpensive wires and you'll be set.
You buy the tool and you'll have to learn how to use it, and then you'll use it all the time to mess with the stupid points.
Just my opinion.

[Longhorn Man]

Actually, THIS is just a vent.

[Broken_down?]

Just got off the phone with www.summitracing.com and they quoted me $150! They said they did not have one for less then that. Thats far from $50..lol maybe someone can point me in the right direction.

Rich

[Swbman]

Go with the hei, you will be happy you did.No other way to go.That's the first to go when I get any kinda old vehicle.You can find all them all the time,at any salvage yard.

[shuttermutt]

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

I agree with the junk yard HEI. You can take the 50 bucks, buy the HEI, new cap, new rotor, and some inexpensive wires and you'll be set.
You buy the tool and you'll have to learn how to use it, and then you'll use it all the time to mess with the stupid points.
Just my opinion.

$50 for a used HEI, cap, rotor and wires!?! Man, I wanna shop where you shop!

I'll second (or third or fourth as the case may be) the vote for an HEI setup. Scrounge the junkyard and you'll have one in no time. Personally, I don't think it's reasonable to expect to pay just $20 in most areas, but I wouldn't go beyond $50 for a good looking one. You'll be glad you ditched those points.

Also, scrounge the local pawn shops for an analyzer. I've seen good ones for $10 or $20 more times than I can count. If nothing else, they're handy as hell when you need an underhood tach. While you're there, look for a vacuum gauge and a timing light. They're quite handy to have around as well.

[ed455]

Check ebay for an HEI. I got a billet one for $119 with a 50,000 volt coil. I had a buddy check the curve on it and we didn't change a thing. Runs great and I don't have to worry about it. I will keep a module in the glove box for insurance.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...926545375&rd=1

another one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...925406040&rd=1

[chickenwing]

Stickshift or walk told ya. Go to the junk-yard. Nothing wrong with used parts. Like he said, check the shaft for excessive play. I got my first one from an old Monte Carlo.

[Russell]

So, I'm soon to have a spare HEI from a 80 with a 350, anyone want it? $75 + shipping, it has a brand new coil, brand new module, brand new pickup coil, and no play in the shaft at all. It'll come with the rotor and cap, you'll need to get a set of wires, and regap your plugs to 0.045. I just spent about 120 bucks in new parts for it BTW, it should be good to go for a very long time

[shuttermutt]

Originally Posted by Russell

So, I'm soon to have a spare HEI from a 80 with a 350, anyone want it? $75 + shipping, it has a brand new coil, brand new module, brand new pickup coil, and no play in the shaft at all. It'll come with the rotor and cap, you'll need to get a set of wires, and regap your plugs to 0.045. I just spent about 120 bucks in new parts for it BTW, it should be good to go for a very long time

That's a pretty good deal. A new coil, module, pickup, rotor and cap costs more than $75.

[Russell]

Only reason why I am pulling it out is becuase I am going to a TPI which uses an electronically controlled HEI, I can't use the cap from the old HEI thats in the truck, but can use the plugs.

Or -- If you want, I just bought a 74, its got a bone stock HEI in it, I'd sell it for 50 + shipping. At least, I think it has an HEI, haven't looked under the air cleaner yet...

BTW -- Forgot to mention that I'd want the coil from the 75 dollar HEI, I'll include two other coils that are known to work well though, both have a crisp blue spark just like a good coil should

[Broken_down?]

OK bought the dwell meter, specs setup..

Dewll 30
Timing 8, and 10, and 12
RPM @ Idle 700
New Plugs Champion .35
New wires less then 1 yr old.
New points and condensor in 1.
New Igntion coil
New PCV valve
New fuel pump
New fuel filter
New fuel line

I have spent 2 days setting timing points gaps and all that buusiness. Timing seems to be getting better @ 12 but still backfires and sputters when you accelarate. WTF is going on here? Heard something about cam shaft guides? any other ideas? Under the choke pulloff valve was a small port that was sucking air. Plugged it and it seemd to be better. Is this supposed to be plugged or a line suppose to go to it? I canot find any vaccume leaks other then the one I listed above. Also I heard about a burnt valve.. I do not hear the sound it makes if it is burned. The higher I put the timing the better it runs but I know runing the timing to high will F things up. Am I in need of a new motor? PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!

Rich

PS: I am changing my dam name it is jinxing my ass...

I cannot afford the HEI. So rule that out as a suggestion

[67ChevyC10Stepside]

did you just go pay 50 bucks for a dwell meter? but you wont buy a 15-20 dollar HEI?

[Broken_down?]

pickings are slim here.. only 1 junkyard here in Oroville CA. Next closest town is Chico which is about 20 or 40 miles away depending where the junkyard is.