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Longhorn Man · 12-28-2004, 10:23 PM

So I went to the parts store and they told me if I have the skinney shoes, I'm in luck, it I have the wide ones, I'm screwed.
They also told me that my wheel cylinders will be like 50 bucks each...depending on what size they are...no listing for a rebuild kit.

So here goes...where can I locate the hard to find items...asuming I'll be needing them.
Am I able to just unbolt the entire backing plate and brake assembly off, and install a later model....if so, any ideas on what to look for. What would I do for drums/bearings/hubs.
I'd like to replace this HO72, but it isn't really do-able at the moment....but the brakes are kerfagled, so i have to do something.
Ideas?
Part numbers?
Web sites?
hand grenade...please?

dwaite72lnghrn · 12-28-2004, 10:47 PM

I am in the same boat when they go bad again I am swapping to a later model rear. When the truck was redone I got 2 rear wheel cylinders new shoes new ball joints in the front cost $856 they found the last 2 rear wheel cylinders at an old ford dealer that had some chevy NOS on the shelf. If I had of known then what I know now there would be a 14bolt Full floater with a locker there now.

cableguy0 · 12-29-2004, 12:56 AM

i got a napa part number for the wide shoes and they have em in stock on there web site heres the link welp nevermind they wont let me link but go to www.napaonline.com RTSTS320 thats the number for the wide shoes

**special-K** · 12-29-2004, 10:06 AM

There are sources larger trucks use that "re-line" your shoes.Check it out.

68C15 · 12-29-2004, 10:21 AM

what have you got for a rear diff? 10 bolt & 12 bolt truck diffs interchange backing plates. I have a set of junk 10 bolt ones here at work that I can measure the bolt pattern & etc. if interested.

Burnsman · 12-29-2004, 10:56 AM

I have a nice dana 60.

junkyardjohn · 12-29-2004, 12:59 PM

TRY NAPA ... THIS SUMMER I REBUILT THE COMPLETE FRONT END & DID THE REAR BRAKES ON MY 69 ONE TON. NOT ONLY DID THEY CARRY THEM (WIDE SHOES) BUT HAD THEM IN STOCK. I SURE LIKE NAPA FOR KNOWLEDGEABLE, HELPFUL PEOPLE.

JOHN

da-burb · 12-29-2004, 02:03 PM

I did the rear brakes in my C30 dually last spring. I couldn't get a rebuilt brake cylinder from Napa. They ordered it twice and it was either too small or monster big. I gave up and rebuilt it myself. The kit was cheap and there wasn't much pitting in the bore of the cylinder. The bearings were the hard part to find in my case. They ended up having 1 outer on the east coast and an inner on the west coast. It took 3 UPS shipments to get a L+R set together.

OhioDan · 12-29-2004, 05:27 PM

Andy, there's a place over here by me in Dayton called Heavy Duty Parts. They're on Webster St. Not far from 70/75S interchange. Maybe they could help? Don't have their number. You could check White Pages.Com for it. Hope this helps?

Longhorn Man · 12-29-2004, 10:16 PM

Cool, some good info here.
I'll have to see if I can yank a drum off tomorow and get a measurement and see what I have.
As far as what rear I have, this is a one ton, no 10 bolt/12 bolt stuff...this is the HO72 Eaton/Cop rear.

68C15 · 12-29-2004, 11:01 PM

14 bolt full floater? how much more common can it get?
NAPA, get the good stuff.

bozracer · 12-29-2004, 11:12 PM

I was told you have to pull the axle out to get that drum off. I need to replace the wheel cylinder that the previous owner broke the bleeder off on my 70 Longhorn. Any truth to the axle deal? I have not not looked at it.

Longhorn Man · 12-29-2004, 11:29 PM

68C15...those aren't cheap around here. Asuming you can locate one to begin with.
Bozracer... pop off the hub cap and remove the 8 3/4 inch headed bolts, tap the center with a ball peen hammer and then pull it out. You have now removed the axle.
The fun part is removing the hub, which is the next step.

bozracer · 12-29-2004, 11:37 PM

Thanks, as you can tell dealing with this rearend is a first for me.

**special-K** · 12-30-2004, 08:28 AM

I think full-floaters are easier to work on.Go for it bozracer.Once shafts are pulled,it`s like the f/e(spindle).68c15,this ain`t no 14-bolt,ain`t even a Dana.These things get a lil`complicated on parts,less`n you got a knowledgeable parts man(or person).They`re getting even harder to find than the parts.My advise:when find your parts,file the p/ns.You may not expect to need them again.But further on,if you do,it`ll only be worse.And,it could help thr next guy down the line.

busterwivell · 12-30-2004, 01:23 PM

Don't know about "full floater" stuff, but I have a 14 bolt rear in my 71 1 ton Longhorn, and when I wanted to change gear ratio last year, the differential place I went to said that the lowest gear they could get for mine was 3:91. I've got 4:10 now. Got another 8 lug, 14 bolt rear from a later model given to me by a friend, but it's the same 4:10 gears. Anyone know of a good donor vehicle to check?

12-28-2004, 10:23 PM	#1
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	One ton brake parts source? So I went to the parts store and they told me if I have the skinney shoes, I'm in luck, it I have the wide ones, I'm screwed. They also told me that my wheel cylinders will be like 50 bucks each...depending on what size they are...no listing for a rebuild kit. So here goes...where can I locate the hard to find items...asuming I'll be needing them. Am I able to just unbolt the entire backing plate and brake assembly off, and install a later model....if so, any ideas on what to look for. What would I do for drums/bearings/hubs. I'd like to replace this HO72, but it isn't really do-able at the moment....but the brakes are kerfagled, so i have to do something. Ideas? Part numbers? Web sites? hand grenade...please?

12-28-2004, 10:47 PM	#2
dwaite72lnghrn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: central pa Posts: 1,525	I am in the same boat when they go bad again I am swapping to a later model rear. When the truck was redone I got 2 rear wheel cylinders new shoes new ball joints in the front cost $856 they found the last 2 rear wheel cylinders at an old ford dealer that had some chevy NOS on the shelf. If I had of known then what I know now there would be a 14bolt Full floater with a locker there now. __________________ 72 longhorn c30 502BB/th400/fact air/4.11rear/ custom camper 72 bug(the better half's) under reconstruction 2009 HHR aqua blue 71 GMC k20 350/sm465 2009 Chevy hd3500 6.6 Victory Red crew cab dually Dave & Jeanne

12-29-2004, 12:56 AM	#3
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,948	i got a napa part number for the wide shoes and they have em in stock on there web site heres the link welp nevermind they wont let me link but go to www.napaonline.com RTSTS320 thats the number for the wide shoes __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

12-29-2004, 10:06 AM	#4
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	There are sources larger trucks use that "re-line" your shoes.Check it out. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

12-29-2004, 10:21 AM	#5
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	what have you got for a rear diff? 10 bolt & 12 bolt truck diffs interchange backing plates. I have a set of junk 10 bolt ones here at work that I can measure the bolt pattern & etc. if interested. __________________ Man rule #77...if you own a 67 stepside with a caddy 472 you will never be in danger of loosing you man card

12-29-2004, 10:56 AM	#6
Burnsman Chevy Freak Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Meadville, Pa. Posts: 2,804	rear I have a nice dana 60. __________________ 69 GMC SWB, 350 70 Chevy LWB, 350 55 chevy gasser, 461 73 Camaro, 496 67 RS Camaro, 406 64 Chevelle, 588 71 Nova, 565 67 Camaro, 461

12-29-2004, 12:59 PM	#7
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	TRY NAPA ... THIS SUMMER I REBUILT THE COMPLETE FRONT END & DID THE REAR BRAKES ON MY 69 ONE TON. NOT ONLY DID THEY CARRY THEM (WIDE SHOES) BUT HAD THEM IN STOCK. I SURE LIKE NAPA FOR KNOWLEDGEABLE, HELPFUL PEOPLE. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

12-29-2004, 02:03 PM	#8
da-burb "Ochre Ogre" Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Springfield, MN Posts: 3,558	I did the rear brakes in my C30 dually last spring. I couldn't get a rebuilt brake cylinder from Napa. They ordered it twice and it was either too small or monster big. I gave up and rebuilt it myself. The kit was cheap and there wasn't much pitting in the bore of the cylinder. The bearings were the hard part to find in my case. They ended up having 1 outer on the east coast and an inner on the west coast. It took 3 UPS shipments to get a L+R set together. __________________ Bowtie Truck Stop Inc. Mid-West GM Truck Restoration Parts Supplier Your Key Parts, Auto Metal Direct, Dynacorn, and Goodmark dealer. like us @ www.facebook.com/BowtieTruckStop 1971 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1971 K-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 K-20 Suburban (Yellow- that just aint right!) Springfield, Minnesota 56087

12-29-2004, 05:27 PM	#9
OhioDan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Carlisle, Ohio,USA Posts: 1,404	Andy, there's a place over here by me in Dayton called Heavy Duty Parts. They're on Webster St. Not far from 70/75S interchange. Maybe they could help? Don't have their number. You could check White Pages.Com for it. Hope this helps? __________________ LIFE AIN'T EASY WHEN YER FAT AND GREASY! GMC= Got More Class! 1970 GMC LWB, Fleetside, 350/4spd, Flowmaster "40's", 2002 GMC 16" Rallies, cowl hood,and added a bunch of options that weren't there when I started.

12-29-2004, 10:16 PM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Cool, some good info here. I'll have to see if I can yank a drum off tomorow and get a measurement and see what I have. As far as what rear I have, this is a one ton, no 10 bolt/12 bolt stuff...this is the HO72 Eaton/Cop rear.

12-29-2004, 11:01 PM	#11
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	14 bolt full floater? how much more common can it get? NAPA, get the good stuff. __________________ Man rule #77...if you own a 67 stepside with a caddy 472 you will never be in danger of loosing you man card

12-29-2004, 11:12 PM	#12
bozracer wnc tvman Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Etowah,North Carolina Posts: 228	I was told you have to pull the axle out to get that drum off. I need to replace the wheel cylinder that the previous owner broke the bleeder off on my 70 Longhorn. Any truth to the axle deal? I have not not looked at it. __________________ Oz WNC 67 Short Fleet 350 4speed 70 Short Fleet 327 4speed

12-29-2004, 11:29 PM	#13
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	68C15...those aren't cheap around here. Asuming you can locate one to begin with. Bozracer... pop off the hub cap and remove the 8 3/4 inch headed bolts, tap the center with a ball peen hammer and then pull it out. You have now removed the axle. The fun part is removing the hub, which is the next step.

12-29-2004, 11:37 PM	#14
bozracer wnc tvman Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Etowah,North Carolina Posts: 228	Thanks, as you can tell dealing with this rearend is a first for me. __________________ Oz WNC 67 Short Fleet 350 4speed 70 Short Fleet 327 4speed

12-30-2004, 08:28 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	I think full-floaters are easier to work on.Go for it bozracer.Once shafts are pulled,it`s like the f/e(spindle).68c15,this ain`t no 14-bolt,ain`t even a Dana.These things get a lil`complicated on parts,less`n you got a knowledgeable parts man(or person).They`re getting even harder to find than the parts.My advise:when find your parts,file the p/ns.You may not expect to need them again.But further on,if you do,it`ll only be worse.And,it could help thr next guy down the line. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~



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12-30-2004, 01:23 PM	#16
busterwivell Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sahuarita, AZ USA Posts: 2,033	Don't know about "full floater" stuff, but I have a 14 bolt rear in my 71 1 ton Longhorn, and when I wanted to change gear ratio last year, the differential place I went to said that the lowest gear they could get for mine was 3:91. I've got 4:10 now. Got another 8 lug, 14 bolt rear from a later model given to me by a friend, but it's the same 4:10 gears. Anyone know of a good donor vehicle to check? __________________ Bill - Tucson, AZ 47 Chevrolet 2 dr sedan 56 Chevrolet 210 2 dr sedan 66 Chevrolet Malibu 2 dr 4 speed 71 Chevrolet C30 Longhorn 86 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS (Sold) 01 Chevrolet Tahoe IM - BUSTERWIVE@aol.com

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