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Botietruck · 06-06-2005, 10:27 PM

Finally got the pics on here. I pulled the frame out and washed off the winter dust & cobwebs. Will prolly set the cab on next week. Can't wait to get started again!

68w/sbc406 · 06-06-2005, 10:46 PM

clean inline you got there

Geezer · 06-06-2005, 10:57 PM

Looks great! And A/C Too! Say, you mind telling me how you removed the cab without hurting it?

Botietruck · 06-08-2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Geezer

Looks great! And A/C Too! Say, you mind telling me how you removed the cab without hurting it?

I've had that cab on and off several times. With the doors off and the cab stripped, it takes 3-4 good strong bodies to get it on and off without straining. We pick up at the bottom of the rockers and once it's off one on each side and one at the front & rear. Two can do it, but I don't recommend it.

Bob

**Yukon Jack** · 06-07-2005, 09:44 AM

Looks great. Lots of cleaing time went into that frame.

**CPNE** · 06-07-2005, 09:51 AM

Not may have the foresight to buck the V8/Auto trend and keep the in-line and 3 speed column shift tranny. Good for you. It'll pay dividends in the long run with ease-of-maintenance and trouble-free simplicity.

SCOTI · 06-07-2005, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CPNE

Not may have the foresight to buck the V8/Auto trend and keep the in-line and 3 speed column shift tranny. Good for you. It'll pay dividends in the long run with ease-of-maintenance and trouble-free simplicity.

Ease of maintenance & trouble free simplicity my arse. While I loved my 6cyl/3spd & I'm a huge column shift fanatic, the column shifter linkage & that trans leave much to be desired. How does one fix that? Swap in another 3spd column & then another trans.

A few months later.... that 'new' shift linkage keeps hanging up in gear (so much that it killed the clutch). You're finally fed up enough to cut a hole in the floor of your cab & stick in a floor shifter . . ..... only then to have the tranny start crapping out on you!

The simple, low maint fix?
Swap a tried & true sbc w/a turbo 350 trans.

**CPNE** · 06-08-2005, 06:51 AM

I used to have the "lock up" problem too until an old guy showed me how to shift it properly. If you use a slow deliberate motion without ramming and jamming, that old linkage will give you years of trouble free operation. It's when you force things or try and "speed shift" that you run into problems. Like a lot of things, there is a right way and wrong way to do things. This system has outlived its usefulness in todays society due to driving conditions and a lack of patience in general. However, if maintained and used as intended, it is a simple and trouble free setup. I suspect the majority of problems with this setup can be directly attributed to the impatient and untrained "nut" behind the wheel.

SCOTI · 06-08-2005, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPNE

I used to have the "lock up" problem too until an old guy showed me how to shift it properly. If you use a slow deliberate motion without ramming and jamming, that old linkage will give you years of trouble free operation. It's when you force things or try and "speed shift" that you run into problems. Like a lot of things, there is a right way and wrong way to do things. This system has outlived its usefulness in todays society due to driving conditions and a lack of patience in general. However, if maintained and used as intended, it is a simple and trouble free setup. I suspect the majority of problems with this setup can be directly attributed to the impatient and untrained "nut" behind the wheel.

And I mean this in the nicest way. Your not the only one that's been around these trucks for any length of time. I don't 'speed shift'. I use(d) slow, deliberate movements from gear to gear. As you stated, if you force the shift, it will most likely hang up.

I'm also not an impatient nut (not that you were calling me one). I've set up several of these column shift trucks that worked . . ..... for a while. Then the problems would start again requiring more adjustments. So I feel confident I can set one of these up adequately. I even ask questions in order to learn more & help identify some things I possibly missed.

You may love the 3spd columns as much or more than me, but for the average joe, the column shift auto has fewer issues w/day to day reliability . . ..... abused or not.

Dick Dale · 06-07-2005, 10:53 AM

Looks nice. I wish I had that patience.

farside847 · 06-07-2005, 11:22 AM

Looks like all you need is a bucket seat bolted down and your off!

67chevemall · 06-07-2005, 12:03 PM

take lots of pics of the cab install! That sure looks good!

oj70chevy · 06-07-2005, 02:50 PM

Very nice looking frame.

67ChevyRedneck · 06-07-2005, 02:58 PM

Very very nice!

*Gee_Emm* · 06-07-2005, 06:44 PM

Nice!

I am adding AC and PS to my 292, can you post some close up pictures of your pulleys and belt routing? I am having a hard time figuring out how it is supposed to be setup.

**special-K** · 06-07-2005, 09:24 PM

Looks like an assembly-line picture,except for the grass.

Botietruck · 06-08-2005, 10:18 PM

Some have asked about the a/c pics.

*Gee_Emm* · 06-08-2005, 10:31 PM

Thanks for the pictures, they are invaluable to me at this point.

What is the AC compressor bracket from?

Is your altenator pulley 1 or 2 groove, I have a 3 groove balancer but I probably am going to have a hard time finding a 3 groove water pump pulley no that it looks like I need one.

Botietruck · 06-12-2005, 10:20 PM

Well, I finally got the cab on the frame Saturday. Had to do it with two (my son and I)... wasn't too bad. In response to CPNE, I plan on going back with as close to original as possible, except for the a/c, p/s & p/b. I will go back with the column shift.
For GeeEmm, the compressor brackets are from a late "70's van...I believe. Everything bolted up ok, just had modify that long support bracket from the compressor down to the front corner of the block. Pulleys are from the same.
The project has come to a stop over the past several months but this board has reignited the spark to get my butt in gear and start back on it. I enjoy surfing the site every day.

*Gee_Emm* · 06-12-2005, 10:27 PM

Looks good. Do you know about the special air cleaner needed for 6's with PB?

Botietruck · 06-12-2005, 10:29 PM

No! Do you know something that I don't know? What's the scoop?

*Gee_Emm* · 06-12-2005, 10:38 PM

It is called an overslung air cleaner. Its like this to clear the brake booster. I figure I had better mention just in case you need to start looking for one. They aren't all that common and if you do find one it could be $$$$

HOTFUN · 06-12-2005, 10:37 PM

I just love original ginny trucks. Very very nice work.

Mark

Botietruck · 06-13-2005, 06:13 AM

Thanks for the info. I'll start looking.

**************
Bob

06-06-2005, 10:27 PM	#1
Botietruck '71 chevy s.bed/s.side Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 1,571	Washed off the dust today. Finally got the pics on here. I pulled the frame out and washed off the winter dust & cobwebs. Will prolly set the cab on next week. Can't wait to get started again! Last edited by Botietruck; 06-08-2005 at 10:26 PM. Reason: lost pics.??

06-06-2005, 10:46 PM	#2
68w/sbc406 Got Light Emitting Diode? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 2,485	clean inline you got there __________________ 1968 1/2 ton 2wd lwb 6 lug disc and bags up front. Next c notch and rear bags '02 Chevy Silverado LT ext cab short bed 2WD 5/7 drop on 22's(the family car) 1993 Cherokee work ride/weekend wheeler

06-06-2005, 10:57 PM	#3
Geezer Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Spring Branch Texas Posts: 177	Looks great! And A/C Too! Say, you mind telling me how you removed the cab without hurting it? Last edited by Geezer; 06-06-2005 at 11:50 PM. Reason: have a question

06-07-2005, 09:44 AM	#5
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,686	Looks great. Lots of cleaing time went into that frame. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

06-07-2005, 09:51 AM	#6
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	Not may have the foresight to buck the V8/Auto trend and keep the in-line and 3 speed column shift tranny. Good for you. It'll pay dividends in the long run with ease-of-maintenance and trouble-free simplicity. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

06-08-2005, 06:51 AM	#8
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	I used to have the "lock up" problem too until an old guy showed me how to shift it properly. If you use a slow deliberate motion without ramming and jamming, that old linkage will give you years of trouble free operation. It's when you force things or try and "speed shift" that you run into problems. Like a lot of things, there is a right way and wrong way to do things. This system has outlived its usefulness in todays society due to driving conditions and a lack of patience in general. However, if maintained and used as intended, it is a simple and trouble free setup. I suspect the majority of problems with this setup can be directly attributed to the impatient and untrained "nut" behind the wheel. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

06-07-2005, 10:53 AM	#10
Dick Dale Excelsior, You Fathead. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Valparaiso, In Posts: 937	Looks nice. I wish I had that patience. __________________ Go Navy. The Sea Is Ours. Budget 350 Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...38#post2264638

06-07-2005, 11:22 AM	#11
farside847 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 995	Looks like all you need is a bucket seat bolted down and your off! __________________ 1971 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside, 307v8 3-on-the-tree

06-07-2005, 12:03 PM	#12
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	take lots of pics of the cab install! That sure looks good!

06-07-2005, 02:50 PM	#13
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06-07-2005, 02:58 PM	#14
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06-07-2005, 06:44 PM	#15
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 3,991	Nice! I am adding AC and PS to my 292, can you post some close up pictures of your pulleys and belt routing? I am having a hard time figuring out how it is supposed to be setup.

06-07-2005, 09:24 PM	#16
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06-08-2005, 10:18 PM	#17
Botietruck '71 chevy s.bed/s.side Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 1,571	Some have asked about the a/c pics. Last edited by Botietruck; 06-08-2005 at 10:20 PM.

06-08-2005, 10:31 PM	#18
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 3,991	Thanks for the pictures, they are invaluable to me at this point. What is the AC compressor bracket from? Is your altenator pulley 1 or 2 groove, I have a 3 groove balancer but I probably am going to have a hard time finding a 3 groove water pump pulley no that it looks like I need one.



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06-12-2005, 10:20 PM	#19
Botietruck '71 chevy s.bed/s.side Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 1,571	More cab install pics Well, I finally got the cab on the frame Saturday. Had to do it with two (my son and I)... wasn't too bad. In response to CPNE, I plan on going back with as close to original as possible, except for the a/c, p/s & p/b. I will go back with the column shift. For GeeEmm, the compressor brackets are from a late "70's van...I believe. Everything bolted up ok, just had modify that long support bracket from the compressor down to the front corner of the block. Pulleys are from the same. The project has come to a stop over the past several months but this board has reignited the spark to get my butt in gear and start back on it. I enjoy surfing the site every day.

06-12-2005, 10:27 PM	#20
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 3,991	Looks good. Do you know about the special air cleaner needed for 6's with PB?

06-12-2005, 10:29 PM	#21
Botietruck '71 chevy s.bed/s.side Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 1,571	No! Do you know something that I don't know? What's the scoop?

06-12-2005, 10:38 PM	#22
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 3,991	It is called an overslung air cleaner. Its like this to clear the brake booster. I figure I had better mention just in case you need to start looking for one. They aren't all that common and if you do find one it could be $$$$ Last edited by Gee_Emm; 06-12-2005 at 10:39 PM.

06-12-2005, 10:37 PM	#23
HOTFUN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,145	I just love original ginny trucks. Very very nice work. Mark __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

06-13-2005, 06:13 AM	#24
Botietruck '71 chevy s.bed/s.side Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 1,571	Thanks for the info. I'll start looking. ************** Bob

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